He didn't even know Jesus. He wrote most of the stuff I've had a problem with in the new testament. Basically this dude wanted to make his version of Christianity. How do you know his version is right?
You know as well as I do that there was a lot of persecution toward early Christians. And you may also know that there were many sects.
If God gives us freewill, how do you know the right teachings came to be well known? Seriously. Protestant Christians want to bring back the original teachings of Jesus without the corruption of the Catholic Church, right? Well the Catholic Church (politicians) chose these texts to be in the Cannon. They had an agenda.
Shouldn't you at least consider that with their freewill, they may have corrupted the true story of Jesus? If you know Jesus in your heart, than this probably won't be a big blow to you, as I'm sure Pauls verses probably don't always sit right with you either.
So why do you let the Catholic Church continue to tell you who Jesus was?
2007-02-06
04:19:11
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If you believe God as the Holy Spirit put together the bible, why has He stopped? There are many translations in English alone. And different interpretations can definitly be drawn from the different translations. All it takes is one word being replaced.
Also, this is not to bash modern Catholics, this is about the Catholic Church as a Theocratical Government when the Cannon was chosen by them.
2007-02-06
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Martin, didn't Paul write Acts?
2007-02-06
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I think enough of what Christ said made it through for them to be able to see how much they go against it--christians ARE Paul, his spirit lives in them far more strongly than Christ
2007-02-06 04:23:40
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answered by Anonymous
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First off, I wouldn't say POLITICS is involved with the origins of certain religeons. The different sects were developed because one group didn't agree with something....another group believed another...so on and so forth. Hardly political.....more on the moral side. As far as having different versions of Christianity....look at the different faiths we have now....Catholic, Protestant, Angelic, Baptist, Methodist, etc....and the Jewish folks don't believe Jesus was the savior at ALL. But my question to you would be....who is right and who is wrong? The answer is all and nobody. Even the Atheists....are they wrong?....who's to say? It all depends on the person.
One thing that people fail to consider is that both the Old and New Testament were written by HUMANS. They are the ones that kept the Bible stories alive. Now whether or not you want to believe certain passages is up to the individual. If you think Peter or Paul has credability....fine..if you don't....then don't. saying that the Church had "an agenda" and "was corrupt" is just plain one sided. There was corruption in all faiths...still continues today. Employing the idea that one religeon is the "bad" one is hopelessly unfair. Sure you can point the finger at THEM....but what about YOU? What was that about "casting the first stone"?
There has been MANY debates on which book in the Bible was the correct history of Jesus. But honestly....how do you know? It's not like there was an archiological dig that could help us piece together what happened. You can come up with facts IN the Bible, but anyone in the logical thinking profession will tell you that you can't just use the topic to prove the topic.
My firm belief is that religeon is not a subject with stone cold answers. That is why I don't think it's right to dissaprove of how others practice thier faith. Even today, you can have five people witness a car crash and the police will get five different stories. They're all VERSIONS OF THE TRUTH.
As far as the last comment you posted..... as a Catholic, I don't believe everything that comes out of the Pope's mouth nor do I believe everything that is considered "Catholic". I'm sure Protestants don't believe everything Protestant. To not question your own religeon results in what the old saying calls "Blind Faith". It's not a sin to be an individual....but it would be to be just a sheep....
So.....Who's right?
Depends on who you believe......
Depends on what you believe.....
But it doesn't matter.....as long as you believe
2007-02-06 05:10:31
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answered by phillyvic 4
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It was not just the Catholic church who accepted Paul's letters. The Protestant movement cleared out a lot of Catholic material deemed to be false. Yet, they agreed to keep Paul's letters intact.
I agree with some of the other answers, that Paul wrote a lot of good stuff, and his writings are valid. Just because some churches twist around Paul's words doesn't mean Paul was bad.
It is also interesting to note that Paul's writings contain a lot of popular Christian concepts not found anywhere else.
Put on the armor of God.
My God shall supply all your need.
I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.
Neither life, nor death, nor anything else can separate us from the love of God.
We are saved by faith and not by works, lest any man should boast.
We are persecuted but not abandoned..cut down but not destroyed.
There are many, many teachings in Paul's letters that can't be found anywhere else in the Bible, and to remove Paul's presence would greatly diminish the New Testament.
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2007-02-06 04:38:58
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answered by cirque de lune 6
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Whew! There's a lot crammed in this question. Paul is one of my favorite writers in the New Testament. Paul was a Jewish Pharisee. If you know anything about the Jewish faith, that should tell you a bunch in itself. Paul was blinded by God while on a destination (probably to persecute more Christians). He was told to go to a Christian home to be cured. You probably already know all this though. Paul embraced the Christian faith once he had been "en lighted", and God used him to spread the faith. God could not have picked a better person for this. As far as the Catholic Church and all that, all I can say is nobody's perfect, including every religion in the world. As a Christian, you're not expected to be perfect, just forgiven. You are guaranteed a spot in heaven, and as a Christian you try to do better by following the teachings of Christ who was God in the flesh. I hope that prayer will help you come to terms with all this. Peace out!
2007-02-06 04:35:45
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answered by Lance 3
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I'm not Catholic.
Peter wrote that Paul's writings were hard to understand, but he also considered those same writings to be on a par EQUAL with the other scriptures. Meaning, just as inspired.
One of the accusations that have come from the anti-Christian camp lately is that Paul "invented" his own version of Christianity.
There's no base to that, the accusation is groundless.
You see, if they can cause doubt among the Christians regarding the doctrine of inspiration of scripture, then they have a wedge in to make you falter.
I want to make ONE point here, which I use anytime someone attacks scripture-
What you are trying to get me to believe is that an Almighty God was incapable of preserving His word for a mere 2000 years?
Think about that.
2007-02-06 04:35:51
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answered by Jed 7
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Jesus spoke to Saul and choose Saul (Paul) to become a "chosen vessel to bear my name to the nations" Acts 9:15 Are you questioning Jesus' choice?
Paul is a fine example of how someone can change and accept Jesus as God's Son. He immediately was baptized and began to preach about Jesus. Acts 9: 17-20
He went through more than any of the other apostles.
2 Cor. 11:23-33. Beaten, imprisoned, shipwrecked, etc.... Jesus said "For I shall show him plainly how many things he must suffer for my name." Acts 9:16
How does Paul corrupt the true story of Jesus??? He was used to help set up the early Christian congregations. The letters he wrote to the congregations shows true Christians how we should be acting. Everything he preached about is in accord with Jesus teachings. Isn't it Paul who tells us at 2 Tim 3:16 & 17 "All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work." Either you believe the whole bible is inspired of God or you don't.
Paul is a fine example of how a mature true Christian man should act.
Paul is one of my favorite people from Bible times.
2007-02-06 04:57:04
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answered by Anonymous
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What is your beef with Paul? You make claims that he wanted to make his own version of Christianity but offer absolutely no sustance or details to explain how. You're absolutely correct about the cannonization of scriptures into what is called the bible.
But did you know you can access the other books and read them as well? Certainly we don't need to rely on the RCC, these books are not lost or hidden from those who seek. If you are sincere in your search for truth, check out the following links to other books. The book of Clement will probably be helpful for you in understanding Paul better as well.
2007-02-06 04:54:48
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answered by Luvly 3
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I'm not against the RCC, they are brothers and sisters in Christ, however i'll chose to leave out Tradition at the same time because it is not what i see in the Bible, not that i'm saying they are wrong, but if it is not in the Bible i'll have to decline.
I believed that the Bible was the written word of God long before i knew anything of the RCC, i just believe it and i know that it is. I believe that the Holy Ghost is responsible for putting these books together, not the knowledge of humans.
2007-02-06 04:24:43
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answered by màrrach 2
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Catholics were the first church right after Jesus, so it stands to reason they would be the first one to be corrupted, but Catholics don't take the word of the bible for fact. Actually, the bible only serves a small portion of their dogma.
2007-02-06 04:23:19
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answered by Militant Agnostic 6
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Acts 9:15 "15But the Lord said to Ananias, 'Go! This man is my chosen instrument to carry my name before the Gentiles and their kings and before the people of Israel."
Hmm why should we listen to Saint Paul?
There are many writers of books in the Bible that never met Jesus, yet should we throw out everything that they say? No, because God has inspired them to write what they did. So it sounds like you don't have a problem with Paul, you have a problem with God.
Also, I do not subscribe to the false teaching of "Free Will." This concept has crept into Christianity through Arminianism and the Englightenment.
***Update***
Saint Luke wrote Acts, not Saint Paul.
2007-02-06 04:33:31
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answered by Martin Chemnitz 5
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I have to agree but some of his teachings are good and worth doing. Jesus' ministry was called the way and that is why he said I am the way to my Father in Heaven. John the Baptist was of the same faith The Way. so let us not go over board with all the fandangled other teachings of others. Let us just follow the way of the true way.
2007-02-06 04:23:43
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