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...were they ever REAL Christians?

If they were really Christian, does that mean that they are already forgiven for their sin of atheism, and will go to heaven?

If they never were really Christian, why not? If they asked Christ into their hearts in sincerity, why did he not come?

(FYI, I am an atheist, *not* seeking to convert.)

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2007-02-06 02:30:35 · 21 answers · asked by Chickyn in a Handbasket 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Of course we were "real" Christians. Christians argue that other Christians from different sects aren't "real" Christians. It's rubbish. If you believe the lie you are a Christian.

2007-02-06 02:33:18 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 6 2

Darwin was once a Christian, he had a degree in theology to. He just lost his faith because he got caught up in technology or knowledge and let whathe could see, the proof of things, lead him instead of faith, things not seen, lead him astray. The question is was he ever saved??? Only God knows the answer to that question, anyone can claim to be a christian, but are they saved and did they except Jesus into their hearts and the other question is can the saved go astray??? I am the opposite, I was once an Athiest and I am now a Christian. So was I ever really an Atheist, LOL.

2007-02-06 02:43:36 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

An atheist by definition is a person who believes there is proof that there is not a god. If there is not a god then there would be no question of or about what he does with Christians.

I believe that god has written his law on all hearts of every human. I believe his love calls to each of us as if he were calling us home. No matter What religion or non religion you are we all feel this call and if we decide to seek the truth the one true god of all gods will find us and come to fill that empty space so many of us try and fill with other things outside of us. That space designed by god for us to connect to all his grace and love.

Even if you do not believe you can fall off a cliff doesn't mean the cliff is not there.

Good Luck with your pursuit of the truth look inside for your answer ask yourself why you asked a question about something you don't believe exists

2007-02-06 02:44:18 · answer #3 · answered by wecaninc 2 · 1 1

Well the term real/ true christians is a derogatory term, I take it as a personal insult, a judgement call, and I assume the person saying it has no tact, compassion or manners.

Real Christians

One of the most frustrating aspects of conversing with Christians has to do with the definition of the term Christian itself. It's easy for anyone to point the finger at the history of Christianity and show its atrocities…the Crusades, the Inquisition, the Nazis… But it is equally easy for someone else to say, "They weren't True Christians."

Now just what do you say to that? (If you're smart, you say nothing and walk away. But I'm not always smart.)

It seems that every Christian has their own definition of what it means to be a Christian. Silly me, I always thought a Christian was one who worshipped Jesus Christ as his/her savior. But to listen to some people, there's far more to it than that. Now, they can't come to an agreement on what those things might be, but they all insist that anyone who doesn't fit their special little definition isn't a Christian. The bible itself isn't clear on the subject, either. But then, the bible is full of contradictory passages, so this should be no surprise.

Some examples of the modern Christian's perspectives... I know of no Christian who accepts that Hitler and the Nazis could possibly have been Christian, despite Hitler's many speeches and writings, despite his words to friends, and despite the vocal beliefs of many of his followers. Similarly, groups like the KKK "aren't Christian," either, even though they constantly refer to Jesus. Catholics? No, they're not True Christians, according to many Protestants. And vice versa.

I've been told that the behaviors of some "supposed" Christians aren't in keeping with the Scriptures, which teach forgiveness, love, and kindness, blah blah blah…

Well, the thing is, some biblical writings do teach such behavior. However, the "good book" is also full of actual examples of the opposite, and from "godly" men, too. Overall, it's a situation of "do as I say, not as I do." And we all know how well that works.

If one were to approach someone described as not being a "real" Christian, they'd insist that they are as "real" as they come. And in their minds, they probably are. So what point is really made by saying they aren't? It's simply a way to dismiss them, to write them off as being pretenders. But that doesn't change the fact that they are, whether one likes it or not, a representative of their professed beliefs. They may not be representative of the best aspects of said belief, but few people are, no matter the beliefs.

To my way of thinking, if you call yourself a Christian, and believe yourself to be a Christian, then it doesn't matter a bit if others think you're Christian or not. It's just a situation of some Christians not wanting to accept that Christians can be scum, just like anyone else.

2007-02-06 02:34:00 · answer #4 · answered by ihatechristiansegyptiangoddess 2 · 2 1

Have you read the Bible? The only perfect person I found in the Bible is Jesus Christ. Abraham called his wife his sister to save his neck. Jacob and his mother swindled his brother. Samson was a womanizer. Tamar played a harlot to get a child. My favorite, Apostle Paul killed Christians before Jesus knocked him blind on the road to Damascus and no one suffered more than Paul for the name of Jesus. It was hard for many to believe that he had become a Christian. I believe we either accept Jesus or we reject Jesus.

Jesus said "if you deny Me then I will deny you before My Father God." Is not atheism saying - there is no Jesus?

2007-02-06 03:05:55 · answer #5 · answered by Jeancommunicates 7 · 0 0

It is hard for me to say exactly where I was when I was a Christian. I figured out that I wasn't around ten. I don't think I ever really believed, but I do remember praying and not thinking it was weird.

I know an ex-preacher that is an atheist. I guarantee you he was as real as you could get. One of those good old fashioned fire and brimstone types. It is fun to get him to do it now. Every see Sam Kinneson (who also was a preacher turned atheist) do the preacher things in his comedy? It's kinda like that.

2007-02-06 02:42:33 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Does a real Christian even exist? I say, only students of Christianity can ever exist. When you change you become a student of something else. It all depends on your needs as a human, for the only thing you can really be is... human.

2007-02-06 02:36:18 · answer #7 · answered by Real Friend 6 · 1 1

Almost all Atheists were once Christians and the words "real Christian" are extremely subjective to the Christian doing the judging (which their bible tells them specifically not to do).

2007-02-06 02:36:22 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

you truly have it incorrect. sturdy christian human beings will pass to heaven and discover that heaven is hossanahing and kneeling to the psychotic one 24/7 for eternity. After a decade or so of this christians will understand the actual nature of hell. those that are intellectually uncomplicated in existence often is the position the single being that fought the egomanical psychotic murderous designs of the evil one and his son--and were given no longer something yet undesirable pr for it.

2016-10-17 05:39:52 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

By my reckoning, and personal experience, yes.
Sorry, momwith2suns, by any test I've encountered I was a real Christian: born again, invited in Jesus, tongues-speaking Christian.

And now I'm not.

Only by the too easy "if he fell away he wasn't genuine" line can anything else be inferred. Real Christians don't fall away? OK, real swimmers don't drown.

2007-02-06 03:05:41 · answer #10 · answered by Pedestal 42 7 · 1 1

I was a real christian. I even wanted to be a nun as a child.

When I hit my later teen years, and I got a little taste of the world, I began to question.

I would think, that even if you go through all the sacrements, and then denounced all of them, that if heaven existed, you wouldn't be going there.

2007-02-06 02:37:29 · answer #11 · answered by froggypjs 5 · 1 1

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