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The bible says that it was written by men under the guidance of god, I think most people would say that is true.

This is my question. are you sure these writings are not the ponderings of a madman, these days we give drugs to people like so they can be normal and interact with people.

This is a serious question I would like to what proof you have to support that they where indeed inspired by god.

If you could do this without using your faith or quoting the bible I would be happy.

Your faith and the bible don’t mean much to me.

2007-02-05 22:08:58 · 12 answers · asked by goth_raz 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Ok, you said no Bible quotes and not to refer to our faith. Ok....I'll try....

Let me ask you, Do you love someone (mom, dad, lover)? How do you define love? The power of love....that force that connects your being with another's? It's hard to "prove" love, right? It's usually proved by "actions." The same goes for the Bible.

It's hard to believe that imperfect man were used via God's Holy Spirit to write the scrolls that later become our Bible. I understand that and your doubt. If you study history to prove the Bible wrong, you'd be surprise and astonished of how the words written years before the event they prophecies were as accurate as if they were there to write about it.

There are texts proving true to many things before were "proven" or created. Example.... that that the world was round and orbited. The idea of a car or cart was first mentioned in the Bible.....yup!

When a doctor tells me to put effort forth to loose weight, he gives me reading material to make sure I follow a healthy diet and exercise curriculum. When a men tells me he loves me and that he'll prove it, I wait to see his efforts. When someone told me to have faith on the Bible, I put effort to study it. I was scared to fall in love with a man for many reasons. I was also afraid of looking stupid to my peers for studying the Bible. But you know, at the end, both were worth my effort! Study it.....doesn't mean you have to believe it, but put effort forth and see for yourself.

2007-02-06 03:57:24 · answer #1 · answered by Zoila 6 · 1 2

Question: "How and when was the canon of the Bible put together?"
Answer: The term "canon" is used to describe the books that are divinely inspired and therefore belong in the Bible. The difficult aspect of determining the Biblical canon is that the Bible does not give us a list of the books that belong in the Bible. Determining the canon was a process, first by Jewish rabbis and scholars, and then later by early Christians. Ultimately, it was God who decided what books belonged in the Biblical canon. A book of Scripture belonged in the canon from the moment God inspired its writing. It was simply a matter of God convincing His human followers which books should be included in the Bible.
Compared to the New Testament, there was very little controversy over the canon of the Old Testament. Hebrew believers recognized God’s messengers, and accepted their writings as inspired of God. There was undeniably some debate in regards to the Old Testament canon. However, by 250 A.D. there was nearly universal agreement on the canon of Hebrew Scripture. The only issue that remained was the Apocrypha…with some debate and discussion continuing today. The vast majority of Hebrew scholars considered the Apocrypha to be good historical and religious documents, but not on the same level as the Hebrew Scriptures.
For the New Testament, the process of the recognition and collection began in the first centuries of the Christian church. Very early on, some of the New Testament books were being recognized. Paul considered Luke’s writings to be as authoritative as the Old Testament (1 Timothy 5:18; see also Deuteronomy 25:4 and Luke 10:7). Peter recognized Paul’s writings as Scripture (2 Peter 3:15-16). Some of the books of the New Testament were being circulated among the churches (Colossians 4:16; 1 Thessalonians 5:27). Clement of Rome mentioned at least eight New Testament books (A.D. 95). Ignatius of Antioch acknowledged about seven books (A.D. 115). Polycarp, a disciple of John the Apostle, acknowledged 15 books (A.D. 108). Later, Irenaeus mentioned 21 books (A.D. 185). Hippolytus recognized 22 books (A.D. 170-235). The New Testament books receiving the most controversy were Hebrews, James, 2 Peter, 2 John, and 3 John. The first “canon” was the Muratorian Canon, which was compiled in (A.D. 170). The Muratorian Canon included all of the New Testament books except Hebrews, James, and 3 John. In A.D. 363, the Council of Laodicea stated that only the Old Testament (along with the Apocrypha) and the 27 books of the New Testament were to be read in the churches. The Council of Hippo (A.D. 393) and the Council of Carthage (A.D. 397) also affirmed the same 27 books as authoritative.
The councils followed something similar to the following principles to determine whether a New Testament book was truly inspired by the Holy Spirit: 1) Was the author an apostle or have a close connection with an apostle? 2) Is the book being accepted by the Body of Christ at large? 3) Did the book contain consistency of doctrine and orthodox teaching? 4) Did the book bear evidence of high moral and spiritual values that would reflect a work of the Holy Spirit? Again, it is crucial to remember that the church did not determine the canon. No early church council decided on the canon. It was God, and God alone, who determined which books belonged in the Bible. It was simply a matter of God convincing His followers of what He had already decided upon. The human process of collecting the books of the Bible was flawed, but God, in His sovereignty, despite our ignorance and stubbornness, brought the early church to the recognition of the books He had inspired.

2007-02-06 10:42:50 · answer #2 · answered by Freedom 7 · 0 2

History for one - 40 different writers spanning thousands of years. 1500 hundred different very specific prophecies of Christ hundreds of years before His birth. Archeology has found the remains of many of the ancient biblical sites that was once thought just myth. Science has never once proven anything that contradicts Scripture. (Somebody on Yahoo keeps saying the Bible says the earth is flat when it clearly talks about the "circle of the earth" - a circle is not flat). You said that my faith and the Bible don't mean much to you - would you take the testimony of millions of people over centuries of time, or the documented miracles attesting to Christ, or the computer chip of the Torah (Bible Code), or the heavens and all its wonders - how much "evidence" do you need? If you won't believe no "proof" will ever satisfy.

2007-02-12 20:15:48 · answer #3 · answered by wd 5 · 0 1

really, you want to regulate your wording merely really: Hebrew Bible Roman Catholic Bible Protestant Bible The Jewish pupils finished the version of the Hebrew Bible in about the 0.33 century. That textual content is protected in both the RC and Prot. Bible. The order of the books is diverse, because of underlying assumptions. The Christian Bible (the hot testomony) wasn't really nailed down until eventually practically the 10th century or so. After that, it change into locked in. This change into finished in a chain of Church Councils. this article is an identical in both the RC and Prot. Bible, and the former testomony is fairly a lot an identical in both of those Bibles, except that the order may be somewhat diverse. the merely distinction between the RC and Prot. Bibles is the presence of the Apocrypha -- countless books that were unknown in Hebrew, yet were protected robotically in Greek language translations of the former testomony that were in common use round the time of the early Church. That Greek translation of the former testomony (referred to as the Septuagint) change into so common (maximum Jews did not on the prompt undergo in ideas the thanks to speak or examine Hebrew anymore) that whenever you hit upon the former testomony quoted contained in the hot testomony, it truly is continuously the Septuagint textual content they're quoting.

2016-11-02 11:25:25 · answer #4 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Think on this do you have a concious? when you were little do you,think back do you remember something inside you was telling don't do that it is wrong when you weent to do something bad this is your concious.THe bible talks about your concious sake God is your concious through the Holy Spirit listen to what you heart is telling you you know good from evil.

2007-02-13 15:37:36 · answer #5 · answered by Fisherofmen 4 · 0 0

Why does your avatar look so angry? I believe the Bible is the word of God. I believe what it says in the bible even if it took men to write it down. I have proof which is my life. Read it for yourself and find out if it is true or not.

2007-02-05 22:42:18 · answer #6 · answered by Godb4me 5 · 0 2

I know that deep inside me God is real and the Bible is truth. Any Christian would have to use faith and the Bible- because that is where the truth lies. You would not ask a brilliant mathematician not to use formulas that were written long ago to prove an equation would you, or a doctor not to refer to a medical book? So please, do not ask a believer not to say faith is the way we know. Also please do not ask us not to refer to the truth of God's word.

2007-02-06 03:32:53 · answer #7 · answered by AdoreHim 7 · 0 2

You need to have your own faith. Look inside yourself and if you can't see what God has already done for you then you need to seek him.

2007-02-13 14:25:56 · answer #8 · answered by brandy1979 2 · 0 0

WORLD HISTORY

#00. Earth no time or age given.
#01. Egypt Empire 2083 after Eden, 427 after flood, 1983 Abraham BCE
000. Egypt Empire 2513 after Eden, 857 after flood, 1553 Moses BCE
#02. Assyria Empire 3239 after Eden, 1583 after flood, 827 to 714 Isaiah BCE
#03. Babylon Empire 3460 after Eden, 1804 after flood, 606 to 533 Daniel BCE
#04. Medo-Persia Empire 3530 after Eden, 1874 after flood, 536 Cyrus and Ezra BCE
#05. Greece Empire 3730 after Eden, 2074 after flood, 336 Alexander the great BCE
#06. Roman Empire 4066 after Eden, 2410 after flood, Herod at end of bible years.
#07. Ends 2520 after Babylon Empire #3.
#08. The 8th is of the 7. Ends 2670 after Babylon Empire #3, could be some sooner.
#09. The 1000 year kingdom to 7130 years after Eden, No Satan.
#10. No end to all remaining in Paradise.

2007-02-06 00:37:18 · answer #9 · answered by jeni 7 · 0 3

Is 4000 years not proof enough for you ! When you wake up from your deep sleep maybe you'll understand .....maybe not !

2007-02-13 16:48:51 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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