iraqis fighting US Army are 'insurgents' but french fighting Nazi Germany are 'resistance'.Why?

Question

presence:insurgency in iraq although they are fighter foreign invaders
WW2:resistance in france fighting german invaders
does anybody knows both are almost same?fighting to liberate your country from foreigners?if the russians invade USA won't u do the same thing?

Answer 1

There are so many reasons why this thinking is wrong. It is not only the reason why you fight, but the ideals you fight for.

1) We are not trying to occupy Iraq. If those "insurgents " would
stop fighting, lay down their arms, and let their government
who they elected make the laws. We would leave.
1) Germany had no desire to leave France.

2)"Insurgents" are a good name because they are fighting a
surge from within against freedom. They want to control the
populace with fear and not give them freedom. They elected
this government let me remind you.
2)Resistance usually refers to "Freedom Fighters" , because
they fought against people who were not elected and did not
want their freedom.
The insurgents want the US gone so they can kill anybody who
opposes them and take over. Not so they can free their lands from our control. The best way to do that is to lay low until we leave.
Another whole in your story. Not once did the free French movement kill women and children on purpose so the German Army would leave, They went after the Germans. The German Army did not care about the French deaths.
To insurgents in Iraq the best way to liberate your country from foreign invaders "Stop Fighting". America will say we win. Then leave.

Answer 2

Because the "resistance" of France did not intentionally target civilians who were of a different faith or ideology as themselves.

the resistance was fighting a foreign invader who was bent on forcing the People to live under German laws

France was a free an sovereign democratic nation invaded by a fascist one.

and the french resistance were predominantly french.

The insurgents in Iraq do not fit in to any of those criteria.

1) the insurgents are systematically targeting civilians and people of different faiths to intentionally start conflict.

2) the insurgents are fighting to allow a foreign power (Iran) to take over Iraq.

3) Iraq was a country ruled by a despot who slaughtered and raped his own people for decades, the new Iraq is trying to be a free and democratic and the insurgents don't want that.

4) the insurgents are rarely Iraqi, they are made up of people who would profit most from Iraq falling in to chaos, Iran for example.

Answer 3

Well, Nazi invaded countries, but Iraq is different. Iraqis have its own tribes fighting each other and add to that mix little al queda (10~20%) and other foreign fighters. After Nazis lost French didn't have civil wars, foreign fighters...etc. They just needed to kick out Nazi. And the US didn't have to sit inside France for reconstruction. Iraqis have militias backed by gov officials and Iran. So its much much more complicated situation than French/Nazi deal.

Answer 4

Many of the insurgents are former Baathist/Saddam loyalists. They are facists whose leaders hanged from the gallows or who are still in prison waiting for their trials to begin. These are the same men who wiped out Kurd villages with chemical bombs or opened fire on Shiite strongholds near Basra in South Iraq & killed hundreds of thousands of their own people. These are the same men, formerly of the Iraqi Revoluntionary Guard, who raped and pillaged Kuwait & its people, then destroyed their oil wells in retreat. These men are cowards, murderers, rapists & are fugitives. The other insurgents are Islamic religious fundamentalists bent on sectarian violence--fighting between one sect against another. A great number of insurgents are from other Islamic nations to cause havoc and discord within Iraq. Insurgents do not want Iraq to succeed as a democracy where one sect will have power over the other. Shiites number 80% of the Iraqi population, but had little or no power in Saddam's government. The Kurds were brutalized by Saddam. Now they have their opportunity to govern. Insurgents don't want to see it happen. They believe the Sunnis will be targets of large scale revenge. It's more of a sectarian civil war.

In WWII, the French resistance fought against Nazi armies who were ordered to level Paris, who stole pieces of priceless art, & French wealth, and whose aim it was to rid Europe of an entire race, & to break the will of the French people. This was a war of nations and not a war of religion. It wasn't a civil war. The Vichy government in France surrendered their power to Hitler against the will of the French population. This was purely a political conflict.

The Russians won't invade the US, but if they did, I would do my part to defend America.

Answer 5

No because there is no Iraqi Arm yet.The Iraqi army was deleted by the decision of the American Governor Brimer in 2003 shortly after occupation and most of it is working within the Iraqi resistance organizations.The 300 killed insurgents may be not terrorists but resistance .Who knows !

Answer 6

the US does not run Iraq as a part of the US, Germany ran France as a conquered part of the new Germany. Germany was driven out of France by the Allies invading France (because Germany was defending it's new territory), and the US plans on leaving Iraq on it's own, sooner or later... hopefully sooner.

Answer 7

98% of the so called insurgents are not Iraqis but foreign terrorists who kill anyone that will help the sectarian violence to continue. Of the Iraqis' killing other Iraqis about 30 - 40 % is vengeance attempts because of the foreign terrorists. The people keeping the violence going are simply mad dogs.

Answer 8

Well we Native American Indians were called Redskin Heathens...
and African American Amercians were slaves-- owned/chattel like animals. Both murdered like "insects".
This makes the Pilgrims the white hats (good guys) and they get to write the History.

But if Russia ever had a conflict with USA then they would become the REDS all over again... USA wants to stay WHITE HAT.. Ride white horse.

Answer 9

The Frogs fought? They are masters of the white flag, true, but fighting? No way. A small handfull at best.

Answer 10

Semantics.