what do you do when no one will help?

Question

I KNOW THIS FAMILY THAT HAS 5 KIDS AND THE MOTHER AND FATHER ARE BOTH IN TO SELLING DRUGS AND DOING THEM,THE FATHER IS A DRUNK,THE FATHER BEATS THE KIDS AND THE TWO LITTLE GIRLS HAVE BEEN SEXULY ABUSED BY ONE OF THE FATHERS BUYERS.THE POLICE HAVE BEEN CALLED ON THEM MANY TIMES ,DCFS HAS BEEN CALLED ON THEM MANY TIMES BY THE BABY SITTER,AND SCHOOLS BUT EVRY TIME THE CHILDREN ARE QUESTIONED THE PARENTS ARE IN THE ROOM AND WHEN DCFS COMES OUT THEY MAKE AN APOINTMENT TO STOP BY.BEFOR THEY GET THERE THE FATHER TELLS THEM THAT IF THEY SAY ANYTHING HE WILL BEAT THEM .ALL OF THESE KIKS AGING FROM 12 TO 3 HAVE ALL HAD BROKEN BONES ALL CAUSED BY HIM.WHEN THE OLDEST GIRL (6 YEARS OLD)TOLD HER PARENTS ABOUT BEING SEXULY ABUSED THEY DIDNT BELEIVE HER.THE MOTHER KNOWS ALL OF THIS IS GOING ON IN HER HOUSE AND NEVER SAYS ANY THING TO HIM ABOUT IT.DCFS HAS DROPPED ALL CHARGES AND SO HAVE THE POLICE.SO WHAT HAPPENS TO THESE KIDS NOW?WHO IS GOING TO HELP THEM WHEN NONE OF THE RIGHT PEOPLE WILL?

YES I REALY DO KNOW THESE PEOPLE.MY COUSIN IS THEIR BABY SITTER AND I GO OVER TO HER HOUSE ALL THE TIME.SHE IS THEIR COUSIN.I HAVE SEEN FIRST HAND WHAT THEIR FATHER DOES.EVERY TIME DCFS COME OUT THEY HAVE TAKEN PICTURES SO HAVE THE POLICE.WE HAVE CALLED DCFS,POLICE,THE HELTH DEPARTMENT,SOCAL SERVISES.THE SCHOOL.AND KNOW ONE IS DOING ANYTHING.WE DONT KNOW WHAT ELES TO DO ALOT OF DAYS THE KIDS ASK TO STAY THE NIGHT AND LETS THEM SHE HAS ALSO LET THEM LIVE WITH HER BUT SOONER OR LATER THEIR PARENTS COME BACK AND SAY ITS TIME TO GO HOME.WE HAVE ASKED DCFS TO COME OVER TO HER HOUSE WHEN THEY ARE THERE.BUT THEY WONT.DCFS HAS BEEN CALLED OVER 5 TIMES!!!SO WHAT SO YOU DO WHEN NO ONE WILL HELP???

Answer 1

If this story is true, then you should really be notifying your local law enforcement agencies rather than asking this on Yahoo Answers.

Answer 2

The system is so broken, isn't it? There really isn't very much you can do. If you live near them you can set up a camera to record any abuse or drug deals that go down there. You can try calling narcotics and reporting it, perhaps if the parents went down for drugs the kids will be placed with DCF while they are in jail. Other then the children coming forward with their abuse or an ER doc catching it I don't know what else to tell you since CPS is already aware. You could also try calling CPS and talking with a case worker and telling them everything you have told us, see if they would arrange an unannounced visit. Good luck.

Answer 3

I'm wondering how you know that everything you say has actually gone on. I'm wondering if there's a chance when child services went in they discovered that these allegations really are not true. (Don't get mad at me yet. I'm getting to more of answer that you want.)

In fairness to child services, usually they have a way to know if children feel too intimdated by the presence of their father. By their silence or denials they may actually be showing the child services people that there is reason for concern. They may not have closed the case just yet and could be watching the family by talking to any pediatricians or teachers, etc.

Sometimes, though, the child services people are not well trained. A few years ago there was a case in the western part of Massachusetts: Child services got 17 reports on a little girl, but because she was a troubled little girl (as abused children often are) they believed the lies when they were told she was hurting herself. Later, one of the parents beat her into a coma with a baseball bat; and then there was whole, big, investigation about why child services had left her in the home. A year or so after she was beaten into a coma the governor came out and said that the people in that part of the state were no as expert as knowing what to look for in child abuse cases. The girl's name is Haleigh Poutre.

My point is that although child services people can be very skilled at their jobs, there are some that are not.

If you know for a fact that what you've said is true and isn't what someone could have made up (people do make up stuff, especially kids, which is why the Massachusetts people thought the troubled Haleigh Poutre was lying), call child services again and tell them something that may add credibility to your claim. If you've seen something for yourself or if you can bring up the broken bones - there must be x-rays somewhere - somebody may listen.

Look up the Haleigh Poutre case online, and bring it to their attention that at least one bunch of social workers and doctors in western Massachusetts just didn't know what to be looking for. If you live in an area that isn't a major city (like New York or Boston) there is at least the chance the professionals are not trained in child abuse sufficiently. Haleigh Poutre lived near a biggish city, but it wasn't in the part of Massachusetts where the experts are right on top of things.

The only thing I can think of (if you really know these allegations are true and if you really don't think there's a chance the investigation was done right) is to keep calling. Ask to speak with a supervisor.

I don't know what would happen if you do this, but I wonder if you called child services of the biggest city in your state (a city where the hospitals were known to be really good and where social workers may be accustomed to child abuse cases more than they are in a smaller city), and tell them what you know; whether they may be able to go through channels to get the local people to pay more attention. Maybe they'd be more expert at knowing what to look for.

Every state's child services agency has someone at the very top who runs everything. Every local office reports to those people who are administrators at the state level. You could try calling someone at that level.

It may all depend on how credible your source of information is and on whether there's a chance exaggerations or lies could have been presented.

(I just saw in news that just yesterday that the parents of a four-year-old girl in Massachusetts, who had had child services working with their family for quite a while, were arrested because the child was given an overdose of some ADHD medications and died. A neighbor said she had heard yelling coming out of the house, the father was already not supposed to be in the house, and the neighbor said all three kids looked heavily drugged.

Both parents were arrested. My point is here's another case where apparently the potential danger of the mother was underestimated by the social workers dealing with the family.)

They have a hard job because if they separate families who shouldn't be separated it is horrible, but if they give families the benefit of the doubt it sometimes ends in tragedy.

It can be tricky because there are things like having evidence against someone, proving that broken bones were caused by the father's beatings, etc. Sometimes social workers know something is going on but laws require more proof than they may have.

If you're certain there's no possibility that you have the facts wrong all you can do is keep trying to get someone to listen. Ask someone what it will take to prevent another oversight like that in the Haleigh Poutre case.

Answer 4

have you ever seen a small pocket recorder?their are cheep and easy to hide in a coat or back pack.Get some eveidance thein go to dcs.If dcs has been called and has gone to the house as well as documenting with pix bleve me their is a case with the familys name on it.Too bad though usualy it takes a grave insadent to get anything done.I worked for dcs in anouther state moved here ans say a man carry his 12 month old daughter down a flight of stairs by her foot up side down and try to stuff her in a washing machine and the police officer acholy had the nerve to say the father was carrying his child like that becouse she had pooped her self and had it all over!!!My responce was a big fat SO!I called the national child abuse hot line ran by child help usa a social worker too all the info and they staked out the house for weeks.(the parents were from out of country and fled)Who knows what happened to that poor baby.But you best bet is to secure evadence and call the national child abuse hot line .You can call 24 hours a day 7 days a week.Child help usa has been arround sence the 60s and is a hard working serrous agency.When they contact county social services things get on the ball hop[e this helps

Answer 5

How sad. The only thing I could suggest is to keep calling DCFS and the police and if the babysitter can convince the children to tell the truth when they are questioned or if she can get physical proof of what is going on. Good Luck

Answer 6

call dcfs and talk to them about your concerns. I would say if they have dropped the charges there will be a reason. Hoe do you know for sure this is happening? Teachers and doctors will probably be keeping a good eye on them.

Answer 7

I'm not sure where you live, but you need to call a Childrens Aid or Social Service, tell them what you know and they can take the children away from those awful excuse for parents! In Canada I don't hink that this would go on, I've heard of kids being taken away from less threatening enviroments. Just thinking about those kids, I fear for there lives! DO SOMETHING SOON! PLEASE HELP THOSE KIDS!!!

Answer 8

I will have to say this outrages me and it sounds as if the doctors as well as these lazy *** dcf workers have done a piss poor job of not doen their job.so therefore i think you should try and rally the community to this problem because it sounds as if these idiot's have friends in high places. get a very small tape recorder and talk to the oldest child about hiding it and turning it on when these beatings occur and have the oldest to record the youngest to talk about the sexual abuse and the name if possible of the abuser.

Answer 9

See a lawyer. Find out what you can do legally. Find out what they can do. If possible, get several people to do this together as a kind of concerned committe. Because you don't want to be singled out by the father or mother; it is much harder to do this as a group. Involve your pastor because you're going to need his guidance when you feel like you are intimidated by the task. You are a person who is concerned and you want to do what is right. These parents are not at all like that, concerned or wanting to do what is right. Plus, they are doing something illegal to begin with.

Answer 10

Oh my God! What a horrible and insane situation! PLEASE, if there is anyway, on your part, get them to your county well fare, CALL them, even, and not only that, get them to the Emergency room of any hospital, and tell them everything.
Also, call lawyer.Don't be scared to save these kids! You will never sleep at night, if you do nothing. Sometimes authorities need to hear from others, and those kids, by themselves, before they can be removed!
Call your local or county mental health center, and talk to them too, they might be able to get the ball rolling really fast!

Answer 11

I have to agree with the guy before me... call the news... call the police... enough complaints they will do something... if I was near enough... I'd do it myself... I'm not a cop... maybe take a few days off work... sit outside, down the block.. with a video camera... zoom in on all the car tags that pull in and leave... call about a smell... you know who really gets things going though... the news... you know how shitty it would be to see your house on the news...
call a local church... get some support....
you gotta have evidence...