Why,when a quote is given from the koran, that moslems...?

Question

Why,when a quote is given from the koran revealing the true mohamad , that moslems say it is wrong without giving the correct quote or even worse don't respond... I thought they were supposed to fight liars and disbeleivers... or maybe, by their silence, they are really telling us all that it is all horribly true!


Qur'an:9:123 "Fight the unbelievers around you, and let them find harshness in you."

What is your opinion?

To elgammal......yes you are on the right path young Jedi....let the hate well up in side you

Last weekends death toll of sheite against sunni 238 ...or was it sunni against sheite..I get so confused

By the way I didn't know Pat was a Christian

Hey Zombie2......Then SSSSHHOWWW us the correct quote.....see my point!!

Layla..... Yes oh yes the context we are all forgeting the context always the context....yes of course the context.....sorry did I forget about the context

just provide the quote with the proper CONTEXT then.....are you hiding something..HMMMMMM.

To all those who wrote in with quotes......I get the same response every time and you just don't get it...You go on and on about context and how it was back then and build your beleif system on a man that seems to always require lenghthy explanations, history lessons and justifications....is that what people need in a prophet...don't you want someone where there is no need to constantly defend them or explain questionable acts and messages ie Jesus, Ghandi, Bhudda, Martin Luther King, Mother Teresa etc. etc. etc. When are you people going to wake up and realize that if people have to defend the words and actions of a 'prophet' with this kind of track record MAYBE HE IS UNDEFENCIBLE and therefore not suitible as a prophet.

Answer 1

because true Islam is not taken out of context not misquoted. Or improperly translated.

When many people read the Quran they do not know the historical reference for the revelation. Both the Quran and what was happening at that time in Arabia are needed.

Salaam and thank you for giving me the chance to help you.

First 9:123 says:

1st translation
O ye who believe! Fight the Unbelievers who grid you about, and let them find firmness in you: and know that Allah is with those who fear him.

2nd translation
Believers, do not befriend your fathers or your brothers if they choose unbelief in preference to faith. Wrongdoers are those that befriend them.

3rd translation
O you who believe! Do not take for protectors your fathers and your brothers if they love infidelity above Faith: if any of you do so, they do wrong.

These are 3 different translations from 3 different Quran translations I have in my home. As you can see some things have been lost or added in translation.

The meaning is:

When conflict becomes inevitable, the first thing is to clear our surroundings of all evil, for it is only evil that we can rightly fight. To evil we must put up a stout and stiff resistance. Mealy-mouthed compromises are not right for soldiers of truth and righteousness. They are often a compound of cowardice, weariness, greed, and corruptibility.

Answer 2

the above verse was revealed during a battle between muslims and some unbelievers. Clearly, the verse says "fight the unbelievers AROUND YOU", this means those non-believers fighting the muslims as at that time. If the verse says something like "fight the unbelievers", it would have meant every unbeliever.

The Qur'an is not just translated based on the text, most times, the historical background has to be considered, just as in the above verse! you hardly find a non-islamic website stating that.

Just be careful where you get your information from, because you may be brained-washed as many people are!

Answer 3

the above verse became into revealed for the duration of a conflict between muslims and a few unbelievers. needless to say, the verse says "combat the unbelievers around YOU", this implies those non-believers scuffling with the muslims as at that factor. If the verse says something like "combat the unbelievers", it would have meant each unbeliever. The Qur'an isn't in basic terms translated based on the text cloth, maximum cases, the historic historic past must be considered, in basic terms as in the above verse! you hardly hit upon a non-islamic website pointing out that. in basic terms be careful the place you get your suggestion from, on account which you're brained-washed as many individuals are!

Answer 4

i listened to a man who was a former muslim religious leader talk on pal-talk about the muslim books. this man had amazing knowledge of all the books the muslims use they don't just use the Koran because it doesn't make sense . that is the one point the practicing muslims didn't argue about . anyway not one and there were many could dispute one thing this man said he quoted from the books and just said facts like this did you know that Mohammad there prophet had sex with infants and further more said that others should do this also.
that is a fact and i don't wonder that one of them will say its false and complain to yahoo and that yahoo will delete my stuff or some stupid censorship.
people all people must take time to learn what is written in the muslim books and not just blindly accept president Bush's statements that it is a peaceful religion it is not peaceful the fundamental teaching of that religion is to spread it with the sword and to kill all who will not convert.
now yahoo check your facts before you go believing some complaints you will find as anyone can that what i have written is the Truth.

Answer 5

Because people who put up quotes from the Qur'an acting like they know about it really don't and take the quotes out of context. And most of the time you make yourself look stupid(no offense).

Answer 6

yes fight the unbelievers who try to opress u or attack u ---whats wrong with that ??-----read the whole chapter not a verse from haters websites to brain wash u

did u bothered to find out from an islamic website ---or even buy a Quran and read it-------
u sound ignorant just like Pat Robertson and his ilk

Answer 7

Praise be to Allah. (Please Read This Comment)

First: what you have done isn't weird to any muslim and doesn't worry us about our religion because what you did is just the OLD BORING TRICK of Islam enemies which is "pick the quote and leave the rest which explains it". It's like when Allah says in the aayah (interpretation of the meaning):

“Approach not As-Salaah (the prayer) when you are in a drunken state until you know (the meaning) of what you utter” [al-Nisaa’:43]

If I'm one of the enemies of Islam I'll say: Islam religion doesn't encourage the prayer and asks people to leave it and it's evidenced in the Qur'aan itself as it says "Approach not As-Salaah (the prayer)". And leave the rest that explains it.

Second: we dont refer to Qur'aan verses in numbers as what u did (9:123) but u have to write it in this manner (Surat AL-TAWBA verse number 123)

Third: Is what you are saying true?? let's find out.

Fourth : Surat AL-TAWBA (REPENTANCE) has 2 main points to show beside other points:
1- to reveal the Islamic law in treating non muslims.
2- to show the reaction of muslims when the prophet (peace be upon him) was motivating them to spread Islam in Greece.

Fifth: My words will be concerned on the first point that Prophet mohammed (peace be upon him) allowed the disbelievers to live among muslim society but on 2 conditions ;
1- to pay the Jizyah (tax) to the Muslims in return for protection.
2- not to fight against Muslims in thier raids.
those 2 conditions could be canceled if disbelievers accepted Islam as thier religion.

Sixth: several times those disbelievers especially Jews rescinded that convenant. So Allah revealed this Surah to prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him) to cancel those convenants with them. let's see the first 8 verses (interpretation of the meaning):
001 - Freedom from obligation (is proclaimed) from Allah and His messenger toward those of the idolaters with whom ye made a treaty.
002 - Go ye, then, for four months, backwards and forwards, (as ye will), throughout the land, but know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah (by your falsehood) but that Allah will cover with shame those who reject Him.
003 - And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger to the people on the day of the greater pilgrimage that Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters; therefore if you repent, it will be better for you, and if you turn back, then know that you will not weaken Allah; and announce painful punishment to those who disbelieve.
004 - Except those of the idolaters with whom you made an agreement, then they have not failed you in anything and have not backed up any one against you, so fulfill their agreement to the end of their term; surely Allah loves those who are careful (of their duty).
005 - So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate (zakah), leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
006 - And if one of the idolaters seek protection from you, grant him protection till he hears the word of Allah, then make him attain his place of safety; this is because they are a people who do not know.
007 - How can there be an agreement for the idolaters with Allah and with His Messenger; except those with whom you made an agreement at the Sacred Mosque? So as long as they are true to you, be true to them; surely Allah loves those who are careful (of their duty).
008 - How (can it be)! while if they prevail against you, they would not pay regard in your case to ties of relationship, nor those of covenant; they please you with their mouths while their hearts do not consent; and most of them are transgressors.

Seventh: Allah in verse no. 123 (interpretation of the meaning) says:
"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."

Allah orders the believer to fight the disbeliever near to them first because of what they did and then move to a next level: to spread Islam in far lands as Greece.

So what you did is just that u picked the verse leaving what the whole Surah is talking about.

Answer 8

o.k well show me a verse that is wrong and i'll prove you wrong. yu didnt even give an eample and your running your mouth

Answer 9

because THEY dont even know it

Answer 10

it is so long

120] It was not fitting for the people of Medina and the Bedouin Arabs of the neighbourhood, to refuse to follow Allah's Messenger, nor to prefer their own lives to his: because nothing could they suffer or do, but was reckoned to their credit as a deed of righteousness, - whether they suffered thirst, or fatigue, or hunger, in the Cause of Allah, or trod paths to raise the ire of the Unbelievers, or received any injury whatever from an enemy - for Allah suffereth not the reward to be lost of those who do good.

[121] Nor could they spend anything (for the Cause) - small or great - nor cut across a valley, but the deed is inscribed to their credit; that Allah may requite their deed with the best (possible reward).

[122] Nor should the Believers all go forth together: if a contingent from every expedition remained behind, they could devote themselves to studies in religion, and admonish the people when they return to them, that thus they (may learn) to guard themselves (against evil).

[123] O ye who believe! Fight the Unbelievers who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you: and know that Allah is with those who fear Him.

the story of this ayah :

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if you want to know the story of tabouk i can get it you so you can know why this ayah was said

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you want to believe that Jesus is a God and he is a Prophet, so how can i make a human = God? when will you wake up also since it isnot written in bible that Jesus = God