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and do you believe the Quran calls for terrorism instead of violence in self defense? if so, why? the Quran does call for jihad in the Quran when muslims are being oppressed or attacked but when does it call you to kill innocents?

also when you associate islam with terrorism do you think of 9/11 or the suicide bombings that are going on in iraq?

thank you

2007-02-05 13:25:20 · 16 answers · asked by E.T.01 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

my point was when you read about islam and its reward of paradise to matyrs do you think of those muslims as terrorists? because there is a difference and a matyr is someone who dies for a cause. terrorism isn't preached in islam

2007-02-05 13:30:41 · update #1

muslims do condemn terrorism. pakistan is a muslim country but it is an alley of the US in the war against terrorism.

2007-02-05 13:33:40 · update #2

i'm sorry i wasn't clear but i didn't mean in any way that the muslims that are killing innocents and without cause are matyrs. i only meant to say that the Quran itself does not call for terrorism. the verses of jihad that most people quote are talking about matyrdom and not terrorism. thats all

2007-02-05 13:35:36 · update #3

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It is my understanding that people who take the activities of the prophet Mohamed (not sure if I spelled that correctly. My apology to Muslims if I did not) anyway...that take his lifestyle etc. as their basis for action are called fundamentalists and it is those people who use the Quran as an excuse for doing what they think will give them personal reward. A martyr (from any religion) is someone who dies because of their faith in their God. Christians have many martyrs also. A terrorist on the other hand is someone who just does what gives them satisfaction...whether it be for money, a belief or just out of plain meaness. Confusing I know. As far as killing innocents...this comes from the "killing the infidels" which as I understand it means...Not muslim people. I do not necessarily associate Islam with terrorism. In both 911 and in Iraq, it just happens that many of those involved are fundamentalist Islam. I also believe that their are many many Muslims in Iraq and other places in the world who are just as peace loving as anyone else.

2007-02-05 13:37:04 · answer #1 · answered by Poohcat1 7 · 1 0

A martyr is a terrorist that has learned how the politics work. A terrorist is someone who has heard about a martyr and wants to be one, but doesn't understand the politics.
In America, the founding fathers were considered terrorists by the British, then they figured out the politics.
Also, I don't know anything about the Quran and I don't necessarily associate islam with terrorism. That September day changed the course of history in many ways. I think the bombings in Iraq are religiously motivated and that is their business. Had 9/11 not happened I would not support our presence there.

2007-02-05 21:39:18 · answer #2 · answered by elden w 4 · 0 0

The difference is only in who is writing the paragraph. If somebody dies fighting for a cause that you believe in they are a martyr whereas if they die for a cause that you oppose they are a terrorist. The other case is if they die for a cause that you don't care about they are just dead.
Military personnel killed while serving in Iraq may be considered as terrorists, or at least oppressors who met a justified end, by some portion of the Iraqi population in the same way that British soldiers serving in Northern Ireland once were by some Irish.
Islam is not a terrorist organization so I cannot associate it with 9/11 or suicide bombings. I see only some individuals fighting for what they believe in, however misguided I may find their beliefs or unacceptable I may find their actions.
It is not easy to consider ones own country as an oppressor. I am English and instinctively feel that Britain's role in Northern Ireland was to maintain law and order. The fact that a lot of the people having law and order maintained upon them have some justification in regarding this as oppression. From an historic perspective, George Washington was a terrorist who used violence to oppose legally constituted authority. He won so he can claim to be a patriot whereas if he had been killed during the struggle he may have been considered as a martyr.
I am not trying to defend or condone anybodies actions, merely trying to point out that the difference is one of point of view.

2007-02-05 22:00:16 · answer #3 · answered by John B 4 · 0 0

Muslims can't kill innocent people. It doesn't say in the Qur'an to kill innocent people. Watch the movie Paradise Now and you'll see the difference between martyrs and terrrorists. Muslims can not kill women, children, or the elderly in war because the Prophet(PBUH*) says not too.

2007-02-05 21:58:01 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Jihad is often mistakenly described as "holy war." Explore what the true meaning of Jihad is: a constant struggle to preserve one's faith and defend the rights to freedom of worship.

The Qur'an describes Jihad as a system of checks and balances, as a way that Allah set up to "check one people by means of another." When one person or group transgresses their limits and violates the rights of others, Muslims have the right and the duty to "check" them and bring them back into line. There are several verses of the Qur'an that describe jihad in this manner.
Islam never tolerates unprovoked aggression from its own side; Muslims are commanded in the Qur'an not to begin hostilities, embark on any act of aggression, violate the rights of others, or harm the innocent.

Even hurting or destroying animals or trees is forbidden. War is waged only to defend the religious community against oppression and persecution, because the Qur'an says that "persecution is worse than slaughter" and "let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression" (Qur'an 2:190-193). Therefore, if non-Muslims are peaceful or indifferent to Islam, there is no justified reason to declare war on them.

2007-02-05 21:29:23 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

So far all the terriorists have been muslims.
The usa wasn't in Iraq when Muslims drove a jet into the world trade center and killed eveyone.
They were not in Africa when they bombed the embassy.
They are not in Somalia where the Ethopians have beat back the Islamic forces who have been doing the worst genocide the world has ever seen. National geographic magazine.
They are not matyr but cold blooded killers who hate everyone.

2007-02-05 21:31:50 · answer #6 · answered by Ruth 6 · 1 4

okay, first, i don't think the quran calls for terrorism, but some leaders in islam do.
9/11 was cause by Afghanistan, not Iraq, and suicide bombings happen in many more places than Iraq

2007-02-05 21:30:53 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

Easy.
Martyrs accept their own deaths rather than accept someone else's ideas.
Terrorists cause others' deaths rather than accept peaceful co-existence.

That the terrorist dies also is irrelevant to the definition. Technically, they are "Homicide Bombers." The self-death is almost a mistake.

2007-02-05 21:29:27 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 4 0

Terrorism does not stand for matyrdom, and terrorists are not Muslims

2007-02-05 21:28:13 · answer #9 · answered by FAUUFDDaa 5 · 1 0

depends on which point of view. If you are killed blowing up civilians you might be a martyr, but you are definitely a terrorist.

Why aren't Islamics condemning the terrorists?

2007-02-05 21:31:32 · answer #10 · answered by T C 6 · 1 0

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