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I mentioned slavery in the Old Testament before, and some Christians dismissed what I said as "complete rubbish" and that I was "totally taking it out of context." They said it didn't count because it was from the Old Testment.

In that case, why are so many anti-gay (a totally Old Testament ideology) movements still going so strong?

When it comes to beliefs, you can't just selectively choose what to believe.


If you don't take it all, you shouldn't deserve to take any of it.

2007-02-05 10:54:49 · 33 answers · asked by Dutch Dolly 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

33 answers

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2007-02-05 10:57:16 · answer #1 · answered by stephanie 3 · 1 4

Here is the problem: being Gay goes against the natural order of everything. It has nothing to do with your religious beliefs. Gay people cannot procreate. It goes against nature and everything that a human being should be willing to do. Forget about the fact that babies can be made in labs and all that crap, its irrelevant. Homosexuality is not your birth-rite, it is a mental disorder and should be treated as such, just as it is a mental disorder (however sick) for someone to be sexually attracted to children. Slavery is a different subject alltogether, last I checked gay people are not being carted across the atlantic by the millions, and dieing by the thousands and being forced to be gay. Slaves were forced to be slaves.
The Christian anti-gay movement is what it is because many Christians believe that being gay is a personal choice, a choice based on demented "evil" thoughts, rather than a mental disorder. I, for one, believe the latter.
What you must also understand, is that the Bible was not written by one person, it was written by hundreds of people and gathered together as a collective work, and organized into one book that flowed in a way that seemed to make the most sense at the time.
Old Testament, New Testament, doesn't matter, doesn't change the fact that being Gay goes against the nature of mankind. Slavery is wrong because of the suffering that it causes....these are two completely different subjects and should be viewed as such.

2007-02-05 11:06:59 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

We believe in the Old Testament as well as the New Testament..
Homosexuality is mentioned numerous time in the Bible but it is something that should not be dwelled upon.. Some churches do but our church does not, in fact it is mentioned maybe once a year if our pastor is preaching in Romans. It is more important to hear sermons about Jesus, salvation, living right, doing good things for others and the Ten Commandments.
The gay issue is real and with all the media attention, the fire is staying lit.
I do not judge people for what they believe in, that is not MY job.
I work in the medical field and all my patients, regardless of sexual orientation, color, religion, etc, get the care they need and deserve..
Why do people harp on the gay issue. They are not a threat to me, that is their business, not mine..
Why dwell on it? My thoughts are of good things to come, thanking God each day for my blessings, family, etc. I don't have time to sit and think about the gay issue..
I pray for everyone each day....

2007-02-05 14:11:30 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I’m a very recent convert to Christianity. Out all the spiritual path I’ve tried (about half dozen), Christianity has filled that void deep inside that always question’s "why am I here"?
I’m going to try and answer this question with the knowledge I’ve acquired without attending church.
Homosexuality is a sin according to the bible. So is lying, stealing, adultery, etc. All sin no matter how insignificant it might be to you and me, is a total abomination to God who is all Sovereign and Holy incapable of accepting any sin. So we are spirits living in a corrupt flesh destine to spend eternity somewhere.
However the real message I’ve learned from the bible is that God loves US ALL unconditionally. We are called to do the same. That we HATE the sin, and LOVE the sinner. We are to leave the judging to GOD! PeAcE!

2007-02-05 11:41:55 · answer #4 · answered by Dalanis 2 · 1 0

It is not right to pick and choose from the bible whether old or new testament. Jesus says in Mathew 5:17-20 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law of the Prophets;I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these comandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you the truth that unless your righteouness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven." Therefore both old and new testament are equally valid.

2007-02-05 11:16:09 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Probably because there is anti-gay stuff in the New Testament too.

Jesus, Peter & Paul seemed to make it clear that God was still concerned about sexual morality in the New Testament also, so YOU cannot just pick and choose which statements from Jesus & the apostles that you want to believe, either.

2007-02-05 10:58:36 · answer #6 · answered by Randy G 7 · 4 0

Just for the record, Romans in the NT talks about sexual immorality/homosexuality too (along with Ephesians, Galations...etc)

It doesn't say "O ye Christians, smite the gays!"

We should love them and talk to them like everyone else, but that doesn't mean we condone their ways.

Like Jesus would.

As far as I'm concerned, I'm not perfect, and therefore cannot point many fingers at people I don't really know.

In the Bible there's a difference between a sin and walking in sin.

Homosexuality is like 'walking in sin'. That's why so many 'christians' are openly judgemental on them.

2007-02-05 10:59:10 · answer #7 · answered by Doug 5 · 6 0

ok, so contained in the previous, slavery change into criminal contained in the united states. Now, it isn't. Does that recommend that the american Revolution not in any respect occurred? Christians say they don't look to be below the OT COVENANT. it is the regulation of the OT. replacing the regulation would not change history. Genesis is history. no longer following the regulation has no longer something to do with concept contained in the history.

2016-11-02 10:20:54 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Churchianity is a pagan faith, and chooses whatever it wants. Therefore it is not a saving faith. Regarding references to "gay" in the "New Testament" see 1 Cor 6:9 or 1 Ti. 1:10. True belief understands that the Almighty does not change, and the principles He gave us in the beginning still are in force, unless they have to do with the temple service, for the temple was destroyed.

2007-02-05 11:02:01 · answer #9 · answered by hasse_john 7 · 1 2

Christians basically choose the OT laws they feel like obeying based on whatever is most convenient for them. For instance, it would be very inconvenient for most Christians to abstain from eating pork or shellfish, so they don't. They just go ehhh, those laws aren't important.

As far as anything in the NT, Jesus never specifically said anything about homosexuality.

And it's arguable whether Paul was actually referring to homosexuality in his passages. First of all, the Greek words Paul used that Christians interpret as meaning homosexual actually have several meanings, and many Greek scholars state that "homosexual" is not what the terms in question meant from the context. For that matter, homosexuality basically wasn't recognized as a distinct concept until the 19th century or so.

But even assuming Paul was referring to homosexuals, it's pretty clear why he did so. Paul was most likely a self-loathing homosexual himself. He never married, had an intense aversion to women, and preferred the company of younger, attractive males. He also complained continually of being tormented by his "thorn in the flesh", which seems fairly obvious to have homoerotic undertones. Paul's subconscious was probably trying to tell everyone in code what he couldn't say upfront.

Wouldn't it be funny if the founder of the Christian Church and its patron saint were indeed a self-loathing homosexual himself?

Isn't it ironic, dontcha think?

2007-02-05 11:07:03 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 3

'you shall not lie with a male as with a woman.it is an abomination.Leviticus18v22

eventough it is in the old testament.but whatever law we break will be punish as well.for example the 10 commanments.one of them is 'you shall have no other gods before Me.'exodus20v3.living in the new testament it doesn't mean that we can just worship other 'gods'.the same thing applies..

2007-02-05 11:06:59 · answer #11 · answered by Von 2 · 1 0

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