Is the soul created at birth or before?

Question

If before...is it in God's presence?

If the soul was created before birth (and in God's presence) and then enters a human body, then isn't there a serious problem with that? It has just entered a human and now has the capacity to sin and spend the next part of eternity away from God (possibly roasting in agony)?

If you believe in the timelessness and immortality of the soul, then WHY THE @#$% ARE YOU HAVING KIDS?! There is no guarantee that they will accept your religion or even do good after all.

Doesn't that sound like a horrible thing for us to do? Wouldn't it be better if humanity just didn't exist?

Answer 1

I belive in life before our existance here.

Scripture tells of John leaping for joy in Elizabeth's womb when Mary visits ... & "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you"

Answer 2

According to Gnostic belief the purpose of life is a complicated plan to redeem Sophia (Wisdom), who caused a cosmic crisis by creating Yaldaboath, also known as the God of the Old Testament.

Gnostics believe that a human is made up of three parts, the body, the soul and the spirit. The body and the soul die, only the spirit lives on. Usually reincarnated into a new body/soul until the spirit is purified and returned to the pleroma (realm of light).

The spirit is part of the true God, that was dispersed to humankind and must be purified and returned to the pleroma for the redemption of Sophia.

Yaldaboath holds the spirit in this world (the realm of darkness) until it is purified. Once the spirit is purified it can no longer be held by Yaldaboath and is guided back to the pleroma with the help of Christ, the only begotten son of the true Father and his consort Barbelo, the Holy Spirit.

Answer 3

First of all, you do not have and immortal soul, if you did, then why had no one gone to Heaven before Jesus came to the Earth, 4000 years had came & gone since Adam & Eve, millions of people had died, what did Jesus say to a man of the Pharisees, Nic·o·de'mus was his name, a ruler of the Jews.

John 3:13
Moreover, no man has ascended into heaven but he that descended from heaven, the Son of man.

What is a Soul?
Right in the very first book of the Bible, Genesis, we are told that the soul is not something you have, it is something you are. We read of the creation of Adam, the first human being: “The man came to be a living soul.” (Genesis 2:7) The Hebrew word used here for soul, ne'phesh, occurs well over 700 times in the Hebrew Scriptures, never once conveying the idea of a separate, ethereal, spiritual part of man. On the contrary, the soul is tangible, concrete, physical.

Look up the following cited texts in your own copy of the Bible, for the Hebrew word ne'phesh is found in each of them. They clearly show that the soul can face risk, danger, and even be kidnapped (Deuteronomy 24:7; Judges 9:17; 1 Samuel 19:11); touch things (Job 6:7); be locked up in irons (Psalm 105:18); crave to eat, be afflicted by fasting, and faint from hunger and thirst; and suffer from a wasting disease or even insomnia as a result of grief. (Deuteronomy 12:20; Psalm 35:13; 69:10;) In other words, because your soul is you, your very self, your soul can experience anything you can experience.

Does that mean, then, that the soul can actually die? Yes. Far from being immortal, human souls are spoken of in the Hebrew Scriptures as being “cut off,” or executed, for wrongdoing, being struck fatally, murdered, destroyed, and torn to pieces. (Exodus 31:14; Deuteronomy 19:6; 22:26; Psalm 7:2) “The soul that is sinning, it itself will die,” says Ezekiel 18:4. Clearly, death is the common end of human souls, since all of us sin. (Psalm 51:5) The first man, Adam, was told that the penalty for sin was death, not transfer to the spirit realm and immortality. (Genesis 2:17) And when he sinned, the sentence was pronounced: “For dust you are and to dust you will return.” (Genesis 3:19) When Adam and Eve died, they simply became what the Bible often refers to as ‘dead souls’ or ‘deceased souls.’

Answer 4

The soul does exist before it comes here!
And that is WHY we have kids!
God himself has a body of flesh and bone. WE CANNOT BE PERFECTED WITHOUT IT!
The pre-existence is to some degree like school before the field. We've learned all about earth life, but now we actually get to do it. We get to make choices! We get to become something! And once the resurrection comes, our bodies will be glorified bodies and it will be even better! But we get to make the choices and prove who we really are now. That is why we are here.

Answer 5

This flesh age is just that. A relatively brief period of time set aside for a specific purpose. I believe we were all souls in heaven during the rebellion of Satan long long ago.

We were commanded to enter into the flesh for the purpose of learning what death is and to learn about the love of our Father for us. He likewise sent His son into the flesh and so He was able to lead us back to safety. This flesh age is a proving ground for us to demonstrate our love for God without remembering the details of the rebellion. It is the process by which Father eliminates the unrepentant, those wholly dedicated to destruction will reap what they sow.

We have a wonderful eternity to look forward to.

Answer 6

depends on what religion you are.

catholics believe that a child is "ensouled" the moment of conception.

jews generally believe that it occurs some time after, but are not considered a "life" until the moment of birth, however given that you are a "potential, or pre-life" pre-born children are entitled to some protections and status. However this varies from how religious the person is and what type of judism they are.

Answer 7

This can be debated until the day you die, and then only you will know the answer, maybe, if there really is a soul.
For yourlife on earth live it the best you can and you can be rewarded with great memories, or maybe even heaven.

Answer 8

i believe according to the bible, the sould is obtained when child is concieved. when it is able to draw breath.

Answer 9

created at the moment of conseption and that is why abortion is bad. because you would be killing an inocent life