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How come he couldn't find a way to create humans who were 'pure and good' and also had a free will?

2007-02-05 09:55:23 · 31 answers · asked by Ashton 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Then, there would be no Free Will you just answered your own question.

2007-02-05 09:58:16 · answer #1 · answered by Kitty 4 · 0 0

He is all powerful. Look around you. As for creating a human
pure and good, you have the necessary tools to do that yourself
Be thankful for what god has given you!

2007-02-05 10:15:43 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

First of all, it is not entirely clear whether or not we have free will. Recent advances in brain research are revealing that many of our behaviors are determined by hormones and other physical factors inside our bodies. It is growing increasingly apparent that we don't actually have much, if any, conscious control over our actions or thoughts.

But let's ignore that for now. Let's just assume that God is omnipotent and that people have free will. Since He is omnipotent and capable of doing *anything*, then He most certainly *can* create people who freely choose to be good and who are inherently moral. Since we know that people are not always good and not always inherently moral, it is evident that either God is *not* all-powerful (or doesn't exist at all) or that He is *not* a loving and benevolent God.

2007-02-05 10:48:36 · answer #3 · answered by Halley 2 · 0 0

God did create humans who were pure and good and had a free will. They were Adam & Eve. Here were two people created and put in a perfect place, the garden of Eden. They knew no sin. They had a free will. So, what could possibly go wrong ? Satan, that's what. God had Satan to contend with because Satan got thrown out of Heaven, because he thought himself to be above God. So, here we have Adam & Eve living in paradise, in which there was only one thing they were not to do, and that was eat from one apple tree. Alomg comes Satan and tempts them to do that very thing. Before long, that free will began to rationalize & decided that one apple wouldn't hurt anything, so first Eve ate, then Adam. So much for their purity & goodness. Ever since that , man has known sin, because of them eating from the only tree in the whole garden. They disobeyed God. That was their downfall, and it continues to be ours today.

2007-02-05 10:40:37 · answer #4 · answered by The Count 7 · 0 0

I believe we existed before we came here. He is our spiritual father. So, why can't an earthly parent create children who are pure and good and also have free will? Same reason as God. We came to him, the same as we come to our earthly parents. We are our own selves pure and evil (between there), it isn't his doing. We can trust him and our better natures, or rely on our carnal natures. That is our choice.
And by the way, your quesiton contradicts itself. There isn't free will if there aren't choices which can be made between good and evil.

2007-02-05 10:01:59 · answer #5 · answered by Laurel W 4 · 0 0

Perhaps he did create people 'good and pure' with a free will; but they were corrupted through the 'free will' by Satan's deceit in the garden years ago.

2007-02-05 10:53:10 · answer #6 · answered by jefferyspringer57@sbcglobal.net 7 · 0 0

because then we would not have free will. With free will, we have the power to be pure or to say no to God. When we are baptized, we are pure then we sin and are not pure.

2007-02-05 10:00:21 · answer #7 · answered by Catholic 14 5 · 0 0

A better question is how can Christians believe in free will?

I'll prove to you that Christian belief in the concepts of a perfect, omniscient God and human free will are mutually contradictory beliefs, and therefore patently illogical.

Let's accept as true that Christians believe:
a) God exists and is perfect
b) God exists and is all-knowing (omniscient)
c) God created humans and endowed them with "free will", which is the reason why humans "sin" and "stray" from "God's will"

If, as Christians believe, God is omniscient, then God knows everything past, present and future. According to the Christian faith, God knows the future time of each human's death, and "even the hairs on your head are numbered".

Christians also believe that God is perfect. So given that God is perfect AND all-knowing, it would be impossible for him/her NOT to know everything, including all events in the future, since if he did not then he would not be omniscient. Moreover, a perfect God could not even CHOOSE to remain ignorant of some things in the future, as then he would also not be perfectly omniscient. It would be illogical for a perfectly omniscient being who had the capability of knowing everything to choose to remain ignorant of some things. And as illogic is imperfect, it also follows that God is not illogical.

Now we get to the meat of the argument. Since God knows everything, including the future, then he also knows every single action every human being he creates will ever take in life from the moment he creates them. In fact, he knew it even before he created them, since he knows everything.

Given that God knows every action that every human will ever take in his/her life, it is impossible for any human to ever act in a manner contrary to what God already knows they will do, since to do so would be to prove that God ISN'T all-knowing.

Therefore, no human is ever "free" to act differently than exactly how God already knows he or she will act. If there is a perfect omniscient God, then all humans MUST act exactly how he knew they would act from the very moment he created them.

Either there is an omniscient God, or humans have free will. But both cannot exist together.

The even funnier thing is, Christians wholeheartedly accept that they are to be "punished" for their "sinful" nature, when they can't act in any other way than God always knew they would act in the first place.

Some loving God, eh? Punishes you for doing something that he knew you would do beforehand and which you had no choice in doing to begin with? Sounds more to me like a sadist than a loving God.

If a human father did that, knew his child was going to do something wrong before the child did it, did nothing to prevent it, and then still punished him for it afterwards, we'd consider that human father a real ******.

And lest you say, "well, the mind of God surpasses all human understanding", if that's the case, then how do you even know he's all-knowing, all-loving, all-powerful, etc., in the first place? Moreover, if the mind of God is immeasurably greater than human comprehension as Christians say, then his actions and characteristics would also be perfectly logical at a lower level of understanding. If something is flawed at a lower level of understanding, then it's also flawed at a higher level. You don't just gloss over flaws by "supersizing" the level of understanding.

Funny, the mind of God only seems to be beyond human understanding in instances where he sounds like the most illogical, sadistic thing one could think of.

Christians are walking fallacies. And yet they have the audacity to get offended when others don't choose to engage in the same illogic.

2007-02-05 10:36:58 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

He did. Just as soon as a person accepts Jesus Christ, as his Lord and Savior, God declares him pure and good. The acceptance is done by free will.

2007-02-05 10:03:20 · answer #9 · answered by 4HIM- Christians love 7 · 0 0

He could have. But that would have taken away our free will, wouldn't it? We can choose to be pure and good, but we can't do it without God.

2007-02-05 09:58:41 · answer #10 · answered by The_Cricket: Thinking Pink! 7 · 0 0

Thats one of the qualities of His creation that can consider God as powerful.

as the scripture said in romans 9:20

Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?




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