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how come if anyone takes a verse from the bible you tell them its "out of context" or that they are doing it only to create an argument or this or that.

do you not know you do the very same? John 3:16, Romans 6:23
and many others, you take a SINGLE verse from the bible to mean something. why can these verses be singled out and mean something, and other verses cant?

2007-02-05 07:11:51 · 41 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

should i start quoting chapters so i stop getting this "your taking it out of context" argument?

its getting old.

2007-02-05 07:15:26 · update #1

i know what out of context is. and the verses i ask mean the same thing as they do with surrounding text. i am not keeping people from looking up verses. they have a bible they are welcome to use it.

2007-02-05 07:16:35 · update #2

41 answers

sorry to keep answering questions set for christians but you clever chippy n sooooo right hun

2007-02-05 07:16:47 · answer #1 · answered by nendlin 6 · 0 6

Because John 3:16 and Romans 6:23 (and many others) do not lose their true meaning when read out of context.

However, there are some verses that DO have a different meaning when read alone without the surrounding verses. Those are the ones that are said to be taken out of context.

We should always take verses in context, and if you have any doubt of the meaning of John 3:16 and Romans 6:23, please read the entire chapter to verify.

2007-02-05 07:18:32 · answer #2 · answered by Elle 6 · 2 0

Certain verses can stand alone...

For example, both of those that you mention can stand alone. Colossians 1:15. "He (Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation..." This verse sometime reads "firstborn of all creation.."

IF He was the "firstborn of all creation" then he was created and how could he be God? Do you see some of the trivial B.S. that people come up with? The next verse states...

For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones, dominions, principalities, or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him, 17) And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist.

Do you see how if you tear some verses out of the Bible by themselves they cannot stand alone? In one verse 15, he sounds like he is a creation... In the following verses it clearifies that He is not only God but that all things were created through and for Him.

With the attached verses it makes the term firstborn the place of preeminence. A position rather than being a creation which is the purpose of why it has been written.

God when His judgement comes will be most strict on those that taught. Those that lead people astray will be dealt with more severely. Usually they will die a more humiliating death on earth also.

So make sure that you read it very carefully before you go trying to prove a point based on a false theory.

2007-02-05 07:31:28 · answer #3 · answered by James B 5 · 0 0

Just quoting a single verse does not automatically mean that it is out of context. It's true that some verses can stand on their own, while others cannot when taken out of context. John 3:16 can definitely be quoted without context because no one would think of it other than how it is meant to be read. But a verse like Matthew 18:20 can definitely be used of out context.

"For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them."

This is not talking about God listening to our prayers, God's presence being with us when we worship, or healing! It's talking about excommunication within the church!

Idahomike and fruitcake know what's going on!

2007-02-05 07:21:16 · answer #4 · answered by cnm 4 · 2 0

Yes, actually I do that (sometimes)

John 3 is an awesome chapter by the way...hehe.

You can't single out verses with the intention to contradict the Bible or prove it wrong, but you can do it to show that individual verse's true meaning.

Typically, when people say 'out of context', it means that the context around the verse doesn't portray the meaning of that individual verse.

2007-02-05 07:18:11 · answer #5 · answered by Doug 5 · 2 0

I know exactly what it means to take something out of context with one or two verses to make it mean what you want instead of what the Bible says as a whole because Christendom does it all the time. Example: You take the Scripture where Jesus says; when you see me you see the Father also. You take it to mean that Jesus is God, but that is not so. Jesus was saying that he himself is so much like the Father that in essence to see him is like seeing his Father because he and his Father are so much alike. Then you completely ignore the Scriptures that show Jesus was created by God, that he is the beginning, the firstborn of all creation, which means God created him before ANYTHING ELSE. Colossians 1:15 Proverbs 8:22-36 and others. And then you'll thumbs down the truth because you really don't want truth, just like the Scriptures say because it doesn't tickle your ears. There is only one way to understand Psalms 37:11,29 so why don't people believe that the righteous will receive eternal life on a paradise earth in the flesh? And there are other verses showing that man is going to be on earth forever.

2007-02-05 07:20:51 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Other verses can but not a lot and every verse is better in its entirety with the other verses around it it keeps it in context we just give youa part and if you want to hear more than we will give you more but read the verses around john 3:16 we dont take it out of context

2007-02-05 07:16:24 · answer #7 · answered by Lena 2 · 1 0

How can you possibly take John 3:16 and Romans 6:23 out of context? They are intertwined with the enitre New Testament. They mean what they mean.

I don't see what your point is. Give the verses which seem "out of context".

Ironic how you only gave verses that were fine and not "out of context", but you complain about the verses that you don't seem to list in your question.

2007-02-05 07:15:17 · answer #8 · answered by May 4 · 7 0

The Bible is to be line upon Line, Precept upon precept, for anyone to take one scripture and try to prove Gods word wrong or right is always out of context. How confusing is a conversation with one line or one precept out of a different conversation. If I had a conversation yesterday about a car, and took a line out of that conversation and tryed to add it on a conversation today about cooking, it would be totally confusing. And that is what you do when you do not leave a scripture in its full context with the scriptures both before it and after it. It is confusing and out of context. What I have found is that some are not smart enough to be little the word Of God on their own, so they have a tendency to try to take scriptures out of context, out of it's true meaning and twist it around to prove their ridiculous ideas and thoughts. But as usual, God and his word will not be mocked, and all who chose to do this always end up looking foolish in their life time of despair. And some verse's can be singled out simply because they are the sum of the whole Book..
It sums everything up in one verse in John 3:16
For God so Loved the world..
It is the Conculsion, The total Sum.. So it can be singled out.. AS Fact...

2007-02-05 07:38:12 · answer #9 · answered by Tim and Karen J 2 · 1 0

I really respect where you're coming from, and I really don't want to say this, but whenever people argue with regards to a certain religion, they sound ignorant. You may be onto proving some point, but really, you won't go far. If you haevn't noticed, only the 'non-believers' actually agree with you. And you're just offending the rest.

Religion is one thing many people hold very close. And I'm not a christian or a catholic, I just know how it feels to be judged on the basis of your religion. You may be very well-informed, but this isn't the right approach of telling others about it. You're probably only trying to learn something out of it, but it's offensive and it's considered rude. So please, stop.

2007-02-05 07:27:28 · answer #10 · answered by sarahh_f 3 · 2 0

If they are using the verse out of context, then they shouldn't be doing it as well.

But John 3:16 (God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son...") is kind of hard to take out of context lol.

2007-02-05 07:19:21 · answer #11 · answered by arewethereyet 7 · 2 0

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