do you think that bananas prove gods existence? (seriously)?

Question

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z-OLG0KyR4
(the arguement demonstrated here on youtube)

there is an argument going around that says, because the ridges of a banana match the ridges of a humans/primapes hands perfectly, it must have been desgined, and the fact that bananas have a handle thing to open it, this proves that it was desgined. i wanna hear you're thoughts first.

uh oh, i hope no one is getting the idea that i believe this garbage! im 100% atheist and think like most of you that this is a very dumb argument, indeed, this only proves as evidence of natural selection, i dont believe god made bananas!

i cant believe he called the "atheists worst nightmare", i cant stop laughing.

Answer 1

Ummm no...that argument is completely retarded, For one a Plantain is in the Banana family and if it is eaten you get really really sick. You have to cook it first. The plantain looks identical to a banana so what kind of twisted, mean BS is that! if god designed a banana for us then the Plantain is some sick joke.

Answer 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLqQttJinjo&mode=related&search=

I have only a little to add to the video rebuttal.

First, I'm an agnostic (for this post, consider me an atheist) who rather enjoys bananas. They don't terrify me at all. On the other hand, I'm not an expert on bananas, either. If I knew the Whole Truth about them, I might walk with more fear and humility near my favorite yellow fruit.

The notion that the stem end of the banana is for opening it is just one cultural perspective. Some people prefer to use that end as a handle, and open the other end of the banana.

When soft things are packed together tightly, they tend to form ridges. You might notice the beveled appearance of pomegranite seeds, or even the angular shape of some sardines out of the can. I've seen clusters of grapes do the same, though they aren't usually *that* crowded. Although a honeycomb isn't formed by the same forces, it nicely illustrates dense packing. Hexagons, not circles. Domestic bananas grow in dense bunches, so it isn't such a shock that ridges would develop.

The peels are biodegradable. So is everything else that grows on a tree. Since we live in a world full of bacteria and other tiny fellas who just want to eat cells, I'm more impressed that the peels last as long as they do...but I suppose banana trees have evolved with a certain degree of resistance to bacteria. Otherwise they (well, their ancestors, really) would all have fruitlessly decomposed a few hundred million years ago.

I thought the banana video was cute: the guy was entertaining, and had a new way of talking about bananas. I enjoyed his presentation. What I don't like about that video is that a lot of people will now start waving it around as another God proof, without bothering to think about it.

Answer 3

Haven't seen the video. When I went to the page (it will take a while to load, as I'm on dial-up) there was also a movie debunking that argument.

Fruits are bribes -- critters eat them, and poop the seeds somewhere else, complete with a little pile of fertalizer.

This is how such plants spread (one of the ways).

Many fruit's seeds can't germinate unless they've first gone through an animal's digestive tract (scoring up the surface of the seeds).

None of this suggests god, of course. Plants that use these methods successfully reproduced and spread.

Uh, does the argument in question assume that all humans and chimps have exactly the same-sized hands?

Dumber than dumb.

The stem by which we open bananas is what attaches to the tree.

That we use it to break the skin open is just a side-benefit to us of that stem.

Believers in insanity will use anything as evidence of their claims. And lots of morons will believe them just because they want to.

No intelligent person would (including intelligent believers).

Answer 4

People make ridiculous arguments for the existence of God. For everything that someone uses as proof of design, there is one other thing that makes no sense (as in, it can't be designed because it serves no purpose - poisonous berries). The problem is that people seeking to prove God can fit God into anything. It's so malleable!

As a counter to the design argument, why do we have an appendix? Or a spleen? Or two kidneys, when we only need one? If we are "designed" wouldn't God have left out all the extra crap that we don't really need; I mean he's perfect, I would think the design would be more perfect. Or maybe, evolution will ween out these extra organs that we don't need (in thousands of years).

Answer 5

Ok, I'm really enjoying the seriousness with which people are debating the merits/demerits of bananas as proof of the divine, but...supposing God exists, don't you think he'd like you all to pick another fruit? Something less squishy, not featured in countless visual puns? Apples, now. They're in the Bible. Or, at least, they're implied in the Bible. And they fit human hands very well. You can throw 'em to other humans, like nature's precursor to a baseball. They're so well designed they don't even need handles. Can't you just stick with them as irrefutable substantiation of the presumed existence of a hypothetical deity? They're MUCH more dignified than bananas.

BTW, the video was a bit fuzzy on my screen, but it looked to me like Cameron was having a hard time keeping a straight face.

Answer 6

Evolution is evident in everything it does not prove there is no God maybe evolution is God.
I mix batter put it in the oven and bake a cake I dont get in there and fuse molecules and all the other small stuff that happens in a cake to make a cake a cake. Evolution for me is Gods finger print or maybe the whole universe is God.I dont think he cares about bananas.
I dont think, cakes bake themselves, there has to be a chef its just common sense. Chefs dont jump into the oven either they sit back and let the laws of nature bake the cake. GET IT>
To me God is the fabric and energy and every creature can tap into that energy I dont think he does bananas he just put the batter for a banana in the universe.
Kirk Cameron is on the wrong track he isnt tapped into that energy he is tapped into the negative endorphin high people get when they act smuggly superior and cherrish the idea that people will burn in hell.He is in his own hell .
Oh and athiest are in the same endorphin high its the same childish crap that gets people acting like apes.

Answer 7

Only as much as anything that is imperfect proves that God doesn't exist. So, no. This is just more nonsense from people desperate to "prove" their own delusions. I don't know whether God exists or not. I can't possibly know, at this point in time. I'm willing to accept that. Some people want to believe that they know. They look for excuses everywhere, and draw conclusions without knowing a damn thing about what they're talking about. (Yeah, that "handle" is called a stem. Pretty common thing, in fruits.) So they end up saying something stupid like that banana argument.

Answer 8

I had a question yesterday that said bananas shared 50% of DNA with humans. I think people are clutching at straws either way using a banana to prove or disprove God. Bananas are just what they are, bananas.

Answer 9

So, clarify this. certain, a banana, one fruit, one molecule of nutrition seems 'acceptable' for human intake. What about all the different thousands of ingredients? Why ought to God make one nutrition so acceptable? Did he merely favor us to devour bananas? clarify that.

Answer 10

Uh... no.... The ridges do not match the human hand and all fruit has a stem. Also humans originated in Malaysia, not in Africa (for evolutionists) or the Palestine area (for creationist).

Answer 11

Bananas have been domesticated and bred to meet the requirements stated in that video for about 300 years.

They are not a testimony of God's good will, but instead of human ingenuity.