Is There something wrong with the bible?

Question

I'm trying really hard to respect the minds of you christians but you're making it Really hard for me.

Test your superb powers of observation and see if there is a contradiction on what jesus said/did right before his "Death"

LUKE:
Luk 23:46 Jesus shouted, "Father, I put myself in your hands!" Then he died.

MARK:
Mar 15:34 Then about that time Jesus shouted, "Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachthani?" which means, "My God, my God, why have you deserted me?"

Matthew:
Mat 27:46 Then about that time Jesus shouted, "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?" which means, "My God, my God, why have you deserted me?"

JOHN:
Joh 19:30 After Jesus drank the wine, he said, "Everything is done!" He bowed his head and died.

and one more thing; Aren't Jews saying that we are all the sons of God and his children? then explain this:


Joh 19:7 The crowd replied, "He claimed to be the Son of God! Our Jewish Law says that he must be put to death."

Answer 1

Let me warn you: their new favorite ploy is "Does it really matter WHAT says WHAT?? He died for your sins, dont you respect that?" OR "You have taken it out of context." OR....well, you get the picture.

Answer 2

Wow what a great question. I'll answer the first four verses first. 100% of humanity will die unless Jesus comes back first. We will all put our lives into God's hands at that moment. The question is whether we have rejected him or not, that's what determines whether he rejects us or not. Jesus, being God's son, could have expected God to save him at any time from the physical agony he had to endure, instead, God had to turn away and allow his son to be crucified to pay the price for the wickedness of humanity. So not only had God in a sense deserted Christ, but he also held the only way that Jesus could have still been spared from the crucifixion. The next verse said that with a loud cry Jesus breathed his last. That was probably the "It is finished" mentioned after he drank the wine vinegar in all four books.

I'm not sure where you get the Jewish quote that we are all sons of God and his children. The fact is that God may have created us all to be his children, but if we reject him as a Father there's only so much he can do. We have the free will to reject our inheritance as people that he loves.

The last thing that you wrote illustrates the current problem tradtional Jews have with Messianic Jews. The majority of the Jewish population still believes that they are waiting for their Messiah to come. Because they did not believe that Jesus was the Messiah they incorrectly interpreted his statement that he is the Son of God as blasphemy which under Jewish law is an offense that warrants death.

Answer 3

Well I agree, that different people will see different thing in the same event, and that creates different accounts, Also the bible has been rewritten quite a couple of times, and some changes have been made.
This does not mean that there is something wrong with the bible itself, it just provides different stories.
Furthermore, whether or not something is wrong with the bible depends on how you look on the bible. If you see the bible, as the true word of God, than there would be a lot wrong with the bible, like the whole, earth being the center of the universe idea.
If you look at the bible as a influence on present day western society and it's morals, than there is nothing wrong with the bible

Answer 4

No disrespect intended, but your two questions seem to be kind of dumb, since the answers seem self-evident enough.

1) Lets say that I was dying in the hospital, and that you and a group of other friends had a several hours long conversation with me about various things before I passed away. I probably said many things over the course of the evening, and you could rightfully take any one thing that I said as being my "last words" (here, the term "last word" is a figure of speech that simply means one of the last things that I talked about before I died, not literally THE very last thing that I said seconds before I stopped breathing). Everyone in the room would remember something slightly different as being my last words, because different people were paying attention at different times, and they were distracted by other people in the room at different times (and probably missed one or two things that I said). It is not a contradiction that different people remember slightly different things (ask any prosecutor who had to sort through eyewitness testimony -- it is quite common). You just have to use your common sense to sort out the details and place them in order (see the cut & paste below)

2) I think that you are intelligent enough to realize that there is a difference in connotation between saying that the Jews are the choosen, or "children" of God, and saying that Jesus is the one and only "son" of God. The first expression implies that the Jews are God's favorite somehow, and the latter implies that Jesus is made from the same substance as God (I.E.: that he IS God). Unless you are playing game with semantics, you should be able to figure out the difference in meaning from the context itself. I'm sure that you took reading comprehension as a part of English in high school.

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What are the last words of Jesus?
Matthew 27:46; Mark 15:34; Luke 23:46; John 19:30


(Matthew 27:46) - "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?" that is, "My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?"
(Mark 15:34) - "And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?" which is translated, "My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?"
(Luke 23:46) - "And Jesus, crying out with a loud voice, said, "Father, into Thy hands I commit My spirit." And having said this, He breathed His last."
(John 19:30) - "When Jesus therefore had received the sour wine, He said, "It is finished!" And He bowed His head, and gave up His spirit."
A simple arrangement of the various gospel texts on the Crucifixion Chronology page shows that the last thing Jesus said was "Father, into Thy hands I commit My spirit," (Luke 23:46) which also states that He breathed his last after saying that.

Answer 5

First off Luke does not record what He said in Matthew and Mark and John does not either, but they record other facts about what Jesus said before He died. Every Gospel holds true and just because one gospel does not have word for word what the other says, do you realize different men who were led by the Holy Spirit wrote these gospels? Therefore they are not going to have the exact same word for word outcome---but look at how they are ALL the same! It is all truth- Jesus did say "Lord why you forsaken me" and He did drink a bit of wine before he breathed his last....He also said "Father I put myself in your hands" --all of these things he said when hanging on the cross.
Those who belong to God are His children- not all. There is a remnant of Israel to be saved, and they are too chosen. Many jews do not believe Jesus is the Messiah, and the Bible tells us this- that they are blind- and it also says that someday the Lord will lift the veil from their eyes and save them. Romans 11.

Answer 6

Well, the way I understand it is that each of the books are the authors account of what happened, so some things are the same and some are different. I don't understand a lot of the Bible, but I try because I believe that Jesus is the Son of God. It seems like every one interprets the Bible the way they want and lots of people can make a certain passage or story fit their own situation. Your right, a lot of it doesn't make sense to me either, but I'm sure someday it will.

Answer 7

This is a good example why in the court eye witnesses are not reliable. Because each person will see things according to their own personality and how they may view it. Especially in stressful situation, it becomes even harder to rely on eye witnesses. Those are not contridiction. Read them again, and note the timing, and what he said.

John 19:7. we are God's children because He created us, but with Jesus, it is different. He was put to death for blasphmey, among them, was when he said to a blind man, "your sinns are forgiven". The Jews believe only God can do that, that was a blasphmey.


It was good enough for your prophet to have it translated to Arabic. Ever wonder why! and do you know how many times he mentioned the Bible, and asked the People of the Book to look into their Book. Quote from him: " for the truth is in Your Book, aka the Bible! look it up. You may learn something you never knew before.

You don't make it easy to like people you. If I didn't know many good, honest Muslim people, you would have had a sarcastic answer to your sarcastic and fishing question. I can show you many mistakes in the Quran, but then you would reply by no you are wrong or taking it out of context.

Most likely you will disagree with my answer, because that is not what you want. What you want is to ask your question, and only hear your own voice, and when some answers you, you will refuse to hear it, and respond negatively if it is not coincide with your thoughts.

We know what is in the Bible, and we know who wrote it. We admit that we are not perfect, and there are different interpretation on the facts in the Bible. Whereas we can face that fact, you on the other hand, refuse to face the fact that your own Book has many mistakes, and choose to look away and say it is perfect.

Last and not least. I am a logical person. Don't take my response to you as any attack against you, your people or religion. Live an let Live. I hope you can try and see the good in all people, and if you want infos about the Bible, don't look for it in hate sites, it will only cloud the issues and solve nothing but increase the dreft between you and those whom you are trying really hard to respect.

Answer 8

in response to the first: Jesus was saying that to profess his submission to God's will, which was for Jesus to die.
in response to the second: It is believed that Jesus, at that time, became the sins of the world (so that by him dying so would the sin, but that's another subject) and God cannot live in sinful temples (sinful bodies).
in response to the third: I say the same
in response to the forth: In the king James version it says: "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said,'it is finished:'and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
In response to the last statement: The issue with this is not the bible but man, since man misconstrue and misconceive things; what the Jews meant was Jesus was allegedly blaspheming against God.

Answer 9

Jews do not think that Jesus was the son of GOD read all of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Jesus was talking to GOD on the cross, he told GOD that "It is finished" means he did what he was sent to do. GOD can not look upon sin, GOD actually had to turn his abck on Jesus because GOD is holy and can not see the sins that Jesus took on for the whole world. The last one is just as I said earlier. If the Jews had acutually knew the laws they would have known who Christ was. His disciples knew when Jesus talked to them. Yes we are GODS children but you have to make the choice to follow Jesus, this changed after Jesus was crucified. because Jesus is the only way to GOD the father.

Answer 10

have you ever had 4 friend witness the same event and all 4 come up with a slightly different story - my bet is Jesus said all of those things but depending on who you are talking to they heard part or all of it and that is what they recorded

not sure what you are refering to about the Jews but in Jn 19:7 they put Him to death b/c they believe He is blaspheming by saying He is God

Answer 11

The bible is full of contradictions such as the ones you've pointed out.

It is interesting to note that there are coincidences between the Bible stories and things that happened elsewhere at the same time. For example, the birth announcement for Alexander the Great was virtually identical to the biblical "announcement" of Jesus's birth with the trumpets and all that.