since people love claiming the bible is error free, how do you explain: that the NT condones slavery, that?

Question

the bible says bats are birds, that the bible IMPLIES that the world is flat, that the bible states the cure for leprosy is rabbit's blood, that the NT condones killing your disobdient children TWICE!

* cure for leprosy = not rabbits blood, bird's blood.

why the f*** should i have to give a bunch of lazy ignorant ingrates references to thier own bibles
all they will say once i put in the effort
is youre taking it out of context

Answer 1

Isaiah talks about the circle of the earth.

Isaiah 40:22......There is One who is dwelling above the circle of the earth, the dwellers in which are as grasshoppers, the One who is stretching out the heavens just as a fine gauze, who spreads them out like a tent in which to dwell,

War, poverty, and crime were the basic factors that reduced persons to a state of servitude. Captives of war were often constituted slaves by their captors or were sold into slavery by them. (Compare 2Ki 5:2; Joe 3:6.) In Israelite society a person who became poor could sell himself or his children into slavery to care for his indebtedness. (Ex 21:7; Le 25:39, 47; 2Ki 4:1) One guilty of thievery but unable to make compensation was sold for the things he stole, evidently regaining his freedom at the time all claims against him were cared for.—Ex 22:3.

At times slaves held a position of great trust and honor in a household. The patriarch Abraham’s aged servant (likely Eliezer) managed all of his master’s possessions. (Ge 24:2; 15:2, 3) Abraham’s descendant Joseph, as a slave in Egypt, came to be in charge of everything belonging to Potiphar, a court official of Pharaoh. (Ge 39:1, 5, 6) In Israel, there was a possibility of a slave’s becoming wealthy and redeeming himself.—Le 25:49.



In the Roman Empire slaves were very numerous, with individuals owning hundreds and even thousands of slaves. The institution of slavery had the protection of the imperial government. First-century Christians did not take a stand against governmental authority in this matter and advocate a slaves’ revolt. They respected the legal right of others, including fellow Christians, to own slaves. That is why the apostle Paul sent back the runaway slave Onesimus. Because he had become a Christian, Onesimus willingly returned to his master, subjecting himself as a slave to a fellow Christian. (Phm 10-17) The apostle Paul also admonished Christian slaves not to take improper advantage of their relationship with believing masters. He said: “Let those having believing owners not look down on them, because they are brothers. On the contrary, let them the more readily be slaves, because those receiving the benefit of their good service are believers and beloved.” (1Ti 6:2) For a slave to have a Christian master was a blessing, as his owner was under obligation to deal righteously and fairly with him.—Eph 6:9; Col 4:1.

Answer 2

1) Slavery was a common practice: The bible mandates a much more humane type of slavery that ever existed otherwise...including provisions for freeing slaves that were mistreated.

2) It never says bats are birds. It says bats are winged creatures that are not insects. Biblical Hebrew does not differentiate between flying mammals and birds. The same root word is also used to describe a class of winged angel.

3) The bible makes no implication that the world is flat...rather, quite the contrary.

4) Using the term 'leprosy' to describe the biblical spiritual malady is a misnomer. While the condition clearly resembles leprosy physically, it is not, what is called today, Hansen's disease. The spiritual leprosy was caused by various sins, and it could also appear on inaminate objects. Clearly this is not leprosy.

5) killing disobedient children: The verses serve as an object lesson. In reality, the Talmud clearly states that no child was ever put to death under this law because it was impossible to meet the burden of proof to enforce it. The purpose of the law is to teach parents the warning signs of a child going astray and to be able to respond to such a problem BEFORE it got out of hand.

Answer 3

There is no error...at one time men owned slaves. This doesn't mean that God condoned slavery...only that He gave rules about how to treat ones servants decently. Slavery itself was a human invention...sort of like polygamy, which didn't work out so well in the long run, either.
The one about bats being mistaken by birds is a bit more difficult, but again, it is a human error, not God's error.
The Bible doesn't imply that the world is flat...as far as I know, it doesn't address the issue at all, except in one place where it says something about it being a circle.
The Bible doesn't state that sacrificing birds will cure leprosy. It says that the cured leper should give the sacrifice as a way of saying "thank you" for his cure. There are some examples of leprosy being cured by miraculous divine intervention, however. As far as I know, that was the only way leprosy was ever actually "cured".
When you speak of "disobedient children", remember that the Bible considers your offspring as your "child" till the day you die...and even afterward! God is not saying to take your little terrible two out and stone her, or even your sassy adolescent, who needs a damn good spanking...he is talking about adult "children" who are completely out of control. Perhaps Charles Manson's Mom would understand this one.....

EDIT: I'd quit getting my information from inflammatory web-sites or from people peddling hate, and try reading and studying for myself, if I were you...just a suggestion, by the way....

Answer 4

If i were to go to any science and only use a portion of any theory. Just the parts that would condemn or make a theory look bogus. (All theories have a list of probabilities and some are negative.) I think you would tell me that the scientific method does not work that way. that my search is bogus. Data is taken out of context. There medical cure were part of their religion. what context were these statements made. Was it Hebrew--Aramaic--Greek? What was the meaning of the original language and was it a one time thing. Who stated it. Was it a corrective statement as opposed to a definition.

Killing of youth--put to death the action that caused the error. inference-it would be better that a child be put to death than to disobey. kill the sin not the child.
Slavery--no man is a slave to anyother man but we are all slaves to sin-therfore we all need redemption.
hope this helped-good luck in your search-

Answer 5

Please cite some sources for your references, please. I've never read anything about stoning disobedient children in the New Testament, much less the cure for leprosy being bird's blood.

The sacrifice for BEING cured of leprosy was two pigeons or doves, if memory serves me properly. But that had nothing to do with bird's blood being a cure in itself.

And in the Old Testament, stoning was the punishment for certain acts against parents, but I've never read that in the New Testament. The only thing I remember is Jesus telling people that they were hypocrites for saying that their money was Corban (dedicated to God) rather than helping out their parents.

So please, how about giving us some references for your statements.

Edit:

Citing sources is one of the fundamentals of scholarly study. If you make a point based on a text, you need to provide the original material for further investigation. Your unwillingness to cite your sources leads me to believe that you *cannot* produce appropriate references.

In which case, you have just invalidated your entire argument from a scholarly perspective.

Answer 6

The books of the tome referred to as the Bible covers centuries. Slavery became right into a job description as much as a laborer, babysitter or absolutely everyone in trades on the instant. no longer all slavery became into crushed people labored to dying. maximum slaves have been considered as portion of the kin who raised the toddlers, cooked the nutrition, and took care of the kin. it relatively is the reason whilst people communicate approximately slavery they simply think of of one take, there are various techniques one might nicely be considered a slave. Even after the yank civil conflict many slaves decrease back to their former proprietors the persons that they had taken care of and stayed till the day they died. They have been widely used to the section and the kin there became right into a bond between them. Even on the instant people evaluate there artwork is slavery simply by fact they hardly get an afternoon off for minimum salary. in many techniques its a concept, enslavement might nicely be a prostitution ring, a gang, any team that threatens people from leaving with dying or actual harm. i might that the 1st pronouncements against slavery became into via Pope Paul III in 1537.

Answer 7

These supposed "errors/contradictions" have been tiredly circulated for quite some time by those wanting to discredit the Bible's message. The very wording of your question illustrates that you've not read the Bible...in fact, you haven't even taken the time to fully read the arguments you are trying to assert. If that is your intent (to simply smear the Bible's message), then that is your choice. I won't waste our time clarifying the things you are misguided on, because I'm sensing that you are not really looking for an answer...

Answer 8

This is what The Message Bible says about slavery in the NT....
didn't find anything about condoning slavery..

Act 7:36 He led them out of their slavery. He did wonderful things, setting up God-signs all through Egypt, down at the Red Sea, and out in the wilderness for forty years.

1Co 7:21 Were you a slave? Slavery is no roadblock to obeying and believing. I don't mean you're stuck and can't leave. If you have a chance at freedom, go ahead and take it.

Gal 5:1 Christ has set us free to live a free life. So take your stand! Never again let anyone put a harness of slavery on you.

What the Bible says about Leprosy and the healing of it

Mar 1:40 A leper came to him, begging on his knees, "If you want to, you can cleanse me."
Mar 1:41 Deeply moved, Jesus put out his hand, touched him, and said, "I want to. Be clean."
Mar 1:42 Then and there the leprosy was gone, his skin smooth and healthy.
Mar 1:43 Jesus dismissed him with strict orders:
Mar 1:44 "Say nothing to anyone. Take the offering for cleansing that Moses prescribed and present yourself to the priest. This will validate your healing to the people."

Mat 8:2 Then a leper appeared and went to his knees before Jesus, praying, "Master, if you want to, you can heal my body."
Mat 8:3 Jesus reached out and touched him, saying, "I want to. Be clean." Then and there, all signs of the leprosy were gone.
Mat 8:4 Jesus said, "Don't talk about this all over town. Just quietly present your healed body to the priest, along with the appropriate expressions of thanks to God. Your cleansed and grateful life, not your words, will bear witness to what I have done."

Luk 5:12 One day in one of the villages there was a man covered with leprosy. When he saw Jesus he fell down before him in prayer and said, "If you want to, you can cleanse me."
Luk 5:13 Jesus put out his hand, touched him, and said, "I want to. Be clean." Then and there his skin was smooth, the leprosy gone.
Luk 5:14 Jesus instructed him, "Don't talk about this all over town. Just quietly present your healed self to the priest, along with the offering ordered by Moses. Your cleansed and obedient life, not your words, will bear witness to what I have done."

I'm looking up bats and birds and the world being flat because I've found where your wrong about the other two subjects. So I need not waist my time. I'm not lazy though. I can do all thing in Christ who Strengthens Me.

Answer 9

Well here is what the OT and the NT states about slavery..
Exodus 21:20-21 "And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money [property]."
Exodus 21:26-27 "And if a man smite the eye of his servant, or the eye of his maid, that it perish; he shall let him go free for his eye's sake. And if he smite out his manservant's tooth, or his maidservant's tooth; he shall let him go free for his tooth's sake."
Exodus 21:16: "And he that stealeth [kidnaps] a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death."
Deuteronomy 24:7: "If a man be found stealing any of his brethren of the children of Israel, and maketh merchandise of him, or selleth him; then that thief shall die; and thou shalt put evil away from among you."
Exodus 22:3: "...he should make full restitution; if he have nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft."
II Kings 4:1: "Now there cried a certain woman of the wives of the sons of the prophets unto Elisha, saying, Thy servant my husband is dead; and thou knowest that thy servant did fear the LORD: and the creditor is come to take unto him my two sons to be bondmen."
Slaves Given the weekly Sabbath off: Slaves were not required to work on Saturday. Exodus 20:10: "But the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:"

Now here is what the NT states about slavery:
People in debt (and their children) were still being sold into slavery in New Testament times:
Matthew 18:25: "But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made."
Priests still owned slaves:
Mark 14:66: "And as Peter was beneath in the palace, there cometh one of the maids of the high priest:"
Colossians 4:1: "Masters, give unto your servants that which is just and equal; knowing that ye also have a Master in heaven."
1 Timothy 6:1-3 "Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honor, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed. And they that have believing masters, let them not despise them, because they are brethren; but rather do them service, because they are faithful and beloved, partakers of the benefit. These things teach and exhort. If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;"


However this does not make the bible error free, there are several verses that states one thing then later states something that is opposite of what was first given... I have several verses if anyone needs them ..

edit: here are some of the most common contradictions of the bible..
1.Slavery and oppression ordained
Gen 9:25/ Lev 25:45,46/ Joel 3:8
Slavery and oppression forbidden
Is 58:6/ Ex 22:21/ Ex 21:16/ Matt 23:10
2.Marriage or cohabitation with a sister denounced
Deut 27:22/ Lev 20:17
Abraham married his sister and God blessed the union
Gen 20:11,12/ Gen 17:16
3.Man was created after the other animals
Gen 1:25,26,27
Man was created before the other animals
Gen 2:18,19
4.Christ was crucified at the third hour
Mark 15:25
Christ was not crucified until the sixth hour
John 19:14,15

Answer 10

Firstly, who is telling you that? The person must have been reading something else.

No knowledgeable christian will tell you that the bible is perfect. It is accurate in its instruction and sound in its prophesies, but it is NOT perfect.

Secondly, you obviously got your quotes wrong. The bible never said the world is flat nor did it say those absurd things that you said it does, perhaps you can quote evidence on how you derived your weird conclusions.

What the bible DID say is that those who deny the deity of Christ are anti-christs and that there are no more prophets after John the Baptist.