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The puppy is a labrador and the older dog is a Setter. The puppy gets him in a throat lock.

2007-02-05 03:02:55 · 15 answers · asked by sandiekayart 1 in Pets Dogs

We look after the puppy when his owner works. My Irish Setter is 8 years old.

2007-02-05 04:22:22 · update #1

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2007-02-08 11:56:10 · answer #1 · answered by kermit_is_dead_rip 3 · 0 0

It may seem like playing to you and I but in actuality it's a dominance game to them. The labrador is telling the Setter who's boss and the Setter sounds like he's submitting.

You as the actual ALPHA should step in before it starts to get out of hand and to that point and put both dogs in down and keep them there till you say it's okay to get back up.

I have an English Setter and a Golden Retriever and the Setter tries to do that w/ the Golden. Only the Golden doesn't submit. It got pretty nasty once. You have to step in when it starts getting a little rough and stop it right then and there.

Be consistant.

Good Luck

2007-02-05 03:08:05 · answer #2 · answered by sillybuttmunky 5 · 3 0

Hmm, sounds like rolled up newspaper time, if the setter isnt taking control, then you must, he has to learn that his behaviour is not acceptable, tap him with the paper, mother dogs will teach their pups a lesson by knocking them over and growling at them, the shock value of some mild violence wont hurt him, and will make him think twice, if he wont stop shut him in another room for a while, and make sure you give the setter lots of cuddles, and always feed him first.

2007-02-06 12:24:51 · answer #3 · answered by magpyre 5 · 0 0

You need to make him stop that immediately!! He is being very agressive. As soon, as you get him to let go, hold him down on the ground with his shoulders pinned on the ground. Do not let go of him until he becomes submissive to you. Meaning he quits fighting you. Have the other dog stay there while you are doing this, because this is showing him that he is not alpha over the other dog or you. You must be alpha in this pack!!

Don't leave them alone together when your gone. When you are home let them be together, you don't want to create two seperate packs in your home. Each time the puppy goes after the other dog be consistant and make him stop and put him in time out for a couple of minutes(but no more). Dogs hate time out. They don't like being alone.

2007-02-05 03:08:35 · answer #4 · answered by Kamah 3 · 3 0

How long has this been going on? If it is a long time, I would step in and teach the puppy some manners. If they are just getting to know each other, let it play out. If these dogs have not been socialized, neither one of them may know how to act. I would suggest you encourage the owners to bring the puppy to an off leash puppy class. Other puppies will put him in his place. As for your dog, I would encourage him to stand up for himself. Not be agressive, but to set some limits.

2007-02-05 08:57:26 · answer #5 · answered by Deb t 3 · 0 0

The older dog is not teaching the puppy what happens when you hurt during a play fight?

There is hardly a size issue so this ought not make it impossible for the setter to tell the lab what is what.

I would hesitate in interfering because of the risk of upsetting the setter... Any raised voice or concerned intervention which shows both dogs that you are concerned will make the setter feel bad. He will feel that he is somehow responsible for the pup's action as he is trained to respond to your communication. Vocal and postural.

:-(

My thoughts on this (and see if this is something YOU can do- you know your dogs better than anyone!) are that you ought to let the dogs play-fight and NOT show your concern when it gets "rough" as that is likely to interfere with the setter's sense of self-preservation and he is likely to NOT react as nature intended.

He WILL, I guarantee it, bite back and let the puppy know. A very high-pitched squeal will also have an effect if the setter emits it and makes a sudden move.

So- unless your lab puppy is actually doing more than play-fighting (and I am assuming you know the difference between a settling of pecking order and a play-fight for fun!) I would advise you observe and not let on that you are concerned. Dogs are much tougher than you and I and the setter is better placed with the protective coat than we are!

IF blood is drawn then an unspoken intervention surpressing your fear or anxiety is crucial for the protection of the attacked. The puppy will learn and the habit of play-fighting will diminish over time. Promise.

(edited to add my qualification of this stance: I have a cairn terrier who came to me at less than three months. She was befriended by my friend's sealyham. Aggressive and COMPLETELY loopy dog, he was 2 years old and thought it hilariously good fun to chase Molly around my garden and, when she fell, to jump on top of her and "rip" her throat out. She would yip and look like she was about to die of fright and I nearly freaked. Well- I watched on the first time I witnessed this gruesome game, and lo and behold she eventually gained the upper hand and chased HIM and threw him to the ground to rip HIS throat out.

Turns out that they were play fighting but that it was not all about FUN (we play for fun- dogs play to LEARN) but about learning the ways of a dog's life.

She is a very dominant and non-aggressive dog now with no question about who is boss. She is third in the pecking order at home (and oddly enough is above him whenever and wherever she meets him) and quite contented. She will also fight if she has to. Notably a Jack Russell she had run to to greet reacted badly to her and turned the greeting into a drag out fight. She was his size and only a fifth of his age (hence her naivity) but she fought back so hard that his lead snapped.

Of course- she is not your dog and she hasn't got a puppy to train.

2007-02-05 03:21:39 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

You need to stop him! He is being way too rough, especially if the other dog is crying, that means he's hurting him. Keep a close eye on them when they are playing around, and the second you see the dog going for the throat, stop him.

2007-02-05 04:23:53 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

This is not a good sign you might want to have your puppies ears checked to make sure he or her ears are ok maybe she can not hear the other one crying. If the dog can hear you are going to have to teach him no-no bring him to the ground with you and tell him no just dont say the word no bring him to the ground and show him no-no GOOD LUCK

2007-02-05 06:15:55 · answer #8 · answered by kim h 1 · 0 0

show the pup that you are the boss and will not put up with this pull the pup away and praise the setter

2007-02-08 05:21:32 · answer #9 · answered by Mags 2 · 0 0

A throat lock is usually in for the kill, you should ask your vet for advice.

2007-02-05 03:08:33 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

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