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I ask this question because there are not pastors, preachers or what have you that can answer it. What happens to people who died in Japan or India or where ever let's say a year after Jesus died and didn't even know he existed? If you say they went to hell, then God is unkind to punish someone just because of where they were born. If you say heaven then God is a liar because in the Bible it says that you have to be baptised and believe in Jesus to be given everlasting life. So which one is it?

2007-02-05 02:05:16 · 11 answers · asked by Kamalasundri N 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

11 answers

Before Christ

Since the fall of man, the basis of salvation has always been the death of Christ. No one, either prior to the cross or since the cross, would ever be saved without that one pivotal event in the history of the world. Christ's death paid the penalty for past sins of Old Testament saints and future sins of New Testament saints.
The requirement for salvation has always been faith. The object of one's faith for salvation has always been God. The psalmist wrote, "Blessed are all those who put their trust in Him" (Psalm 2:12). Genesis 15:6 tells us that Abraham believed God and that was enough for God to account it to him for righteousness (see also Romans 4:3-8). The Old Testament sacrificial system did not take away sin, as Hebrews 9:1-10:4 clearly teaches. It did, however, point to the day when the Son of God would shed His blood for the sinful human race.
What has changed through the ages is the content of a believer's faith. God's requirement of what must be believed is based on the amount of revelation He has given mankind up to that time. This is called progressive revelation. Adam believed the promise God gave in Genesis 3:15 that the Seed of the woman would conquer Satan. Adam believed Him, demonstrated by the name he gave Eve (v.20) and the Lord indicated His acceptance immediately by covering them with coats of skin (v.21). At that point that is all Adam knew, but he believed it.
Abraham believed God according to the promises and new revelation God gave him in Genesis 12 and 15. Prior to Moses, no Scripture was written, but mankind was responsible for what God had revealed. Throughout the Old Testament, believers came to salvation because they believed that God would someday take care of their sin problem. Today, we look back, believing that He has already taken care of our sins on Calvary (John 3:16; Hebrews 9:28).
What about believers in Christ's day, prior to the cross and resurrection, what did they believe? Did they understand the full picture of Christ dying on a cross for their sins? Late in his ministry, "Jesus began to show to His disciples that He must go to Jerusalem, and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised the third day" (Matthew 16:21). What was the reaction of His disciples to this message? "Then Peter took Him aside and began to rebuke Him, saying, '‘Far be it from you, Lord; this shall not happen to you!'" (16:22). Peter, and the other disciples, did not know the full truth, yet they were saved because they believed that God would take care of their sin problem. They didn't exactly know how He would accomplish that, any more than Adam, Abraham, Moses, or David knew how, but they believed God.
Today, we have more revelation than did people living before the resurrection of Christ, we know the full picture. "God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son" (Hebrews 1:1-2). Our salvation is still based on the death of Christ, our faith is still the requirement for salvation, and the object of our faith is still God. Today for us the content of our faith is that Christ died for our sins, that He was buried, and that He rose the third day (1 Corinthians 15:3-4).

What happens to those who have not heard the gospel of Christ.

All people are accountable to God whether they have “heard about Him” or not. The Bible tells us that God has clearly revealed Himself in nature (Romans 1:20) and in the hearts of people (Ecclesiastes 3:11). The problem is that the human race is sinful; we all reject this knowledge of God and rebel against Him (Romans 1:21-23). Apart from God's grace, God would give us over to the sinful desires of our hearts, allowing us to discover how useless and miserable life is apart from Him. This He does for those who reject Him (Romans 1:24-32).
In reality, it is not that some people have not heard about God. Rather, the problem is that they have rejected what they have heard and what is readily seen in nature. Deuteronomy 4:29 proclaims, “But if from there you seek the LORD your God, you will find him if you look for him with all your heart and with all your soul.” This verse teaches an important principle: everyone who truly seeks after God will find Him. If a person truly desires to know God, God will make Himself known.
The problem is, “there is no one who understands, no one who seeks God” (Romans 3:11). People reject the knowledge of God that is present in nature and in their own heart, and instead decide to worship a “god” of their own creation. It is foolish to debate the fairness of God sending someone to hell who never had the opportunity to hear the Gospel of Christ. People are responsible to God for what God has already revealed to them. The Bible says that people reject this knowledge, and therefore God is just in condemning them to hell.
Instead of debating the fate of those who have never heard, we, as Christians, should be doing our best to make sure that they hear. We are called to spread the Gospel throughout the nations (Matthew 28:19-20; Acts 1:8). The fact that we know people reject the knowledge of God revealed in nature must motivate us to proclaim the good news of salvation through Jesus Christ. Only through accepting the Gospel of God’s grace through the Lord Jesus Christ can people be saved from their sins and rescued from an eternity apart from God in hell.
If we assume that those who never hear the Gospel are granted mercy from God, we will run into a terrible problem. If people who never hear the Gospel are saved…we should make sure that no one ever hears the Gospel. The worst thing we could do would be share the Gospel with a person and have him or her reject it. If that were to happen, he or she would be condemned. People who do not hear the Gospel must be condemned, or else there is no motive for evangelism. Why run the risk of people possibly rejecting the Gospel and condemning themselves – when they were previously saved because they had never heard the Gospel?

Baptism is not a requirement for salvation. Jesus promised the thief on the cross that he would be with him in Paradise that very day. I am sure that he was not baptised.

2007-02-05 08:02:16 · answer #1 · answered by Freedom 7 · 0 0

I wish you would not put all pastors and preachers in the same category. It is very simple. God gives everyone a chance. He says that even the heavens declare the glory of God. God can reveal Himself to the heart directly and that person can receive if he chooses to do so. There have been reported instances in our day of people who have not heard the message of the Gospel from others because of the closed country they live in and Jesus revealed Himself to them directly - and they believed and received Him. Even in scripture we see this same scenario - Paul's conversion was direct and Jesus appeared in the Old Testament to give direct guidance at different times. I firmly believe that every living person is given at least one chance to accept or refuse. As far as baptism - water baptism does not save anyone. The thief on the cross did not get baptized. If a person has the opportunity and rejects that opportunity then they are in direct disobedience. If they do not have the opportunity it does not keep them out of heaven. The blood saves not the water. Please do not limit God by your limited understanding.

2007-02-12 05:32:43 · answer #2 · answered by wd 5 · 1 0

First of all if you have read the bible you would have known that their was no existance whatsoever before God .He is the alpha and the Omega.The beginning and the End.And God is not unkind but compassionate .If Gods message has not been spread to other 3rd world countries and God was to come he would not send them to hell because they did not know he existed because it wasnt their fault and no one ever told them.In this case God would focus on their actions and good deeds and then determine where they were to go.But if someone knew the truth and didnt want to part take in it then it is by his/her free will that he/her is to burn in hell.SIMPLE.

2007-02-10 21:34:56 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Thats an an awesome question!!!! I'm gonna watch it and see what answers you get. The only thing I can offer is theres somthing my church believes in...which might be similar to this..maybe..
Well..when a child dies...and they havent been baptised or anything god wont hold them accountable since they didnt understand...its called "the age of accountability" .So maybe people who didnt know..or never had the chance to know..or like little kids...and cant be held accountable?? but thats just my guess....i hope you find the answer..god bless!

2007-02-05 02:13:04 · answer #4 · answered by ♥Reels O'Ribbon♥ 5 · 0 0

They are lost! John 3:18
He that beliveth on him is not condemned: but he that BELIEVETH NOT IS CONDEMNED ALREADY, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
If they that have not heard of Jesus and they are safe from hell because they have not heard the worst thing we could do is take them the gospel,if they are saved in their ignorance. Rom. 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked(overlooked)at; but now commandeth ALL MEN EVERYWHERE TO REPENT.
All who are outside of Christ our LOST.
Matt.19,20 Go ye therfor, and Teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and the Son, and of the Holy Spirit:(Ghost). (20) TEACHING them to observe ALL things what soever I have commaned you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world.
The people who haved died will be judged by the law they lived under; Gods law from Adam to Moses, Moses to Christ Jesus there are 3 laws in the bible. The first law (all people under) second law(Moses, only for the Hebrews) all others under first law, third law and last (Christ Jesus) the whole world is under His law. This shows that what God has said about teaching all he realy means it, the Christain will give an account for how many he has brought to Christ.
Those who lived and diad under the first two laws and were faithful were saved when Jesus died on the cross, his blood flowed back to Adam and forward to the end of time.
God is a God of love, he is also a God of justice.
Rom. 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.
Rom.6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Matt. 28:19,20-Mark16:15,16-Luke 24:46,47. these are a command from GOD.
You cannot be baptized in hell, there is no water there. Acts 8:36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain WATER; and the eunuch said, See, here is WATER; what doth hinder me to be baptized?

2007-02-12 20:58:29 · answer #5 · answered by pappyg 6 · 0 0

Sounds like you need to commit to Him in faith. Even a little faith. I was the same way before I committed, up to the second I committed. The baptism I received was . . . I would say uncommon. The way I learned it, and experienced, you don't want to come to christ unless God wants you to. You don't need a priest, you don't need other people around, you don't even need a light on. Just tell Him that you trust Him. You recognize that His son died on the cross for your sins, and you want to make Him the Boss (Lord), over your life.

2016-05-24 18:01:37 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

One word in the following sentence gives you the answer...
- Those to whom chose not to believe (in God) went to hell.
The word is Chose.
Because all those people were blissfully unaware of ideas like God, or Jesus, or Christianity, they couldn't make a choice.
So it seems the Christian God, has doomed the larger portion of the human race to eternal hellfire and damnation.
I'll let you draw your own conclusions about what kind of people would worship a God like that.

2007-02-12 22:01:48 · answer #7 · answered by busted.mike 4 · 0 0

Those to whom the promise was given and believed went to heaven. Those to whom chose not to believe went to hell. Jesus is everywhere for those who would believe. There is no excuse for anybody. But GOD is the judge. Not me . I leave salvation or destruction up to him.

2007-02-05 02:10:09 · answer #8 · answered by Tribble Macher 6 · 0 0

I don't believe God will hold the accountable if the opportunity did not present itself.

2007-02-06 06:26:57 · answer #9 · answered by arikinder 6 · 1 0

I pray that, and believe that God is merciful. I believe he has a plan for innocents.

2007-02-05 04:02:45 · answer #10 · answered by June smiles 7 · 0 0

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