can all religious people be classified as simple, illiterate and low IQs?

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Messianic complex is a psychological state in which the individual believes him/herself to be, or is destined to become, the saviour of the particular field, a group, an event, a time period, or in worse case scenario, the world.
People with Messianic Complexes tend to see themselves as saviours to a specific group of people or a specific field, making claims of their own glory, or claiming a self awareness of their own gift and how that gift can affect a group of people or a field of life.

In the worse cases, people with Messianic Complexes may see themselves as spiritual/religious Messiahs with transcendent powers who are destined to save the world.
that describes a mental disorder characterized by impairments in the perception or expression of reality and by significant social or occupational dysfunction. A person experiencing m.c. is typically characterized as demonstrating disorganized thinking, and as experiencing delusions or hallucinations, in particular auditory hallucinations

It is a mental disorder where the "ill" individual's symptoms are either self-induced or falsified by the patient. Essentially, it is faking sick: the act of an individual faking, exaggerating, or even inflicting self injuries. Their state of consciousness in this act falls somewhere between (and involves both) the conscious and unconscious mind. The main reasons why individuals develop this disorder is to resume the status of a "patient." Hence, they win over the attention, nurturance, sympathy, and even leniency that they feel they are unable to obtain any other way. These individuals produce or exaggerate the symptoms of mental or physical illness. They do so by contaminating urine samples, taking hallucinogens, injecting themselves with bacteria to produce infections, and other such similar behavior.

hi jeanmarie,

education is different from common sense( which religious people lack)

is there a cure for religious people?

Answer 1

Opinions are not necessarily facts. Be careful when speaking about others. We should place the most favorable construction on the motives and acts of others.

Hitler said a certain group of people were simple, illiterate and had low IQs and needed to be exterminated.

Nero said a certain group of people were simple, illiterate and had low IQs and were responsible for the burining of Rome.

In Abraham Lincoln's time, it was believed that a certain group of people were simple, illiterate and had low IQs and were only good for use as slaves..

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Answer 2

As a "religious" person I can't help but say something regarding this. The question is whether or not all religious people can be classified as simple, illiterate and having low IQ's, which is more of an implication than a question, but I digress. The poster then goes on to paste in the definition of Messianic Complex, which looks like it comes straight from Wikipedia(1). At the end of it they also paste in something else, which has nothing to do with Messianic Complex. If it does please state the source you are pasting it because nothing I have found uses that as the definition of either Messianic Complex nor Christ Complex, which is another term for the same thing. It describes more of someone who is a hypochondriac or something along those lines than someone who is either "MC" or "CC". The average religious person does not believe themselves to be the the Saviour of the particular field, a group, an event, a time period, or in worse case scenario, the world. From a Christian stand point, and if you talk to most Christians they do not believe themselves to be Saviours or Messiahs since most will tell you Jesus is the Messiah and Saviour, not themselves. Now there are people who have claimed to be the Messiah or even Jesus Christ himself, and there have been many (2) and I am sure many if not all of these people believed they were very religious people. One of the most recent ones (3) has been featured in Newsweek.

The only thing you have done here in trying to so religious people as being simple and illiterate with low IQ's then proceeding to copy and paste in the definition of Messianic/Christ Complex along with an unrelated psychological disorder, thereby making the statement that all religious people suffer from this psychological disorder is to show both your own lack of education and common sense. In reading the definition of Messianic/Christ complex it doesn't take much of either common sense or education to come to the conclusion that most religious people do not suffer from this. Believing your religion is the only path and speaking to others about what you believe does not fall under this either. If it did then Atheists would be accused of having the same complex. If you don't believe me then go through even YA and look at the numerous posts by atheists claiming the end of religion through logic and reason is the only true path that will save this world.

Answer 3

No. There are deeply religious people who hold PhD's. Conversely, there are some high-functioning retards (medically speaking) who are atheists.

It's just that very few such people exist, and that there is a correlation, but not causation, between higher education and/or higher IQ and non-theism/atheism. This means that you have to do statistical sampling, no one person is sufficient.

For example, if you take 100 randomly selected atheists and 100 randomly selected theists and calculated their average IQ, the atheist group would have the higher average. However, this doesn't mean that all their scores are higher than the theist group. Presume, for example, all the theists have 110 as their IQ. Of course, this means 110 is their average. If 50 of your atheists had 130 IQ and 50 of them had 100 IQ, their average is 115 IQ -- higher than the average for theists though half of them have IQs lower than the theist group.

Answer 4

yes, we can.
all religious people are exactly as you describe.
you are soooooooooooooo intelligent.
you have hit the nail on the head.
you probably know more than God Himself.
happy now?
feel better?
your ego repaired now?
"For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness;
but unto us that are saved it is the power of God."
1 Corinthians 1:18
"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools".
Romans 1:22
"The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned."
1 Corinthians 2:14 (New International Version)

Answer 5

I'm a religious person, and I consider myself to be reasonably intelligent (although there is always something new and different to learn about - nobody can ever know everything). So no, not all religious people can be classified as simple, illiterate, and dimwitted.

Answer 6

i am religious. i tested my IQ on a website called intelligencetest.com and my score was 126 which it says that my rank was above average. i also tested in an 30 Question timed flashplayer program and score 157 in my first try (it was the highest rank with the picture alien on it). but with that IQ i realised that there must be someone better than me. and to that better someone, there is more better... it goes on until it stops... to most powerful thing that exist. and i worship that POWER. He is God.

Answer 7

Simple, illiterate, and low IQ ?????
Arent these are all judgements cast upon others by the intellectual or medical fraternity ??

May the Peace of the Almighty which transcends all understanding be upon you and your brethren.

Answer 8

I have an above average IQ and I am certainly literate. I have a BA in MATH with a minor in Physics. My Master's Degree is in Education with an emphasis in Math also. I am a deeply religious person who believes that Jesus Christ is our petrsonal savior. When you are ready to discuss HIS plan of salvation, just let me know. Have a great WeeK!
Eds

Answer 9

I don't know about your idea and the facts upon which it's based but I'm a Buddhist and my IQ is 126--just smart enough to know I'm not smart. Are you basing your hypothesis on ascribed religions and actual IQs?

Answer 10

I was in Mensa. The smart people are ruled by their own understanding, no room for another god.

1 Corinthians 3:19
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God's sight