Have a look at the Bible & your Torah & decide for yourself, it the only way. Then Listen to your heart, and to what it tells you.
I cannot prove something to you if you have decided that I am wrong already. God want you to learn about him for yourself not from others. You can look to other for an example, but you must remember that we are just mere humans and are not perfect.
2007-02-05 01:58:53
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answered by Joolz of Salopia 5
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Prove that you're a Jew? Or, prove that Jesus is Jewish Messiah? I will take a chance (oh, no not GAMBLING again!)
and assume that you mean the latter...His Jewishness should be obvious to anyone that has read the new testament. After all, he had just finished conducting a Passover ritual when he was arrested. But to try to prove he was the Messiah is quite another matter, entirely, without first agreeing about what 'Messiah'
means. And then there is the matter about what Jesus actually saved (or will save, as his name means in hebrew) us from!
This supposedly has already been accomplished, along with the defeat of Satan...am I wrong, or does accusation and blame, along with competitive strategies and domination schemes take precedence over "love your neighbor as yourself" in this day and age? What defeat took place here on Earth? I don't know about you, but that's where I live now, and nobody ever asked me if I wanted to come here before they brought me here. Maybe Jesus will surprise us all and pop in when we least expect it, (dressed like a thief?) just like He said, or maybe He already has, or maybe he is doing so now...( I'm trying to cover all three tenses here) and there's always this problem with trying to pin God down, you know...He just doesn't seem to like to be 'captured' anymore, and told what to do...He also doesn't seem to like recognition of any kind, preferring to remain anonymous...(and I would too, after what they did to Him last time!) After all, since He's God, he can do anything He chooses, right? If it were you, what would you choose? How can you define God? That's the problem I have in defining 'Messiah'. Maybe you have been able to, and you're testing us mortals. Maybe you haven't, and you're not. Why don't you tell us? You can Email me, if you'd like; I'd be glad to take up a conversation about this, as long as you're not the kind that is offended by viewpoints other than your own.
teshua@verizon.net
2007-02-04 13:26:03
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answered by Anonymous
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There were certain things that the Jewish people believed would prove the Messiah is the one they are waiting for. However It might be that G-d's idea of what he would do and say when he came might be different than what Jewish people thought would be the events that would prove the coming of the messiah. I don't know if that made any sense. Kind of like when people have a preconception of what life is like for any given situation and sometimes it is not as they presumed it would be. Matter of fact there were others in history that Jewish people would prolly say fit the description better than Yeshua. However there are certain patterns that I have noticed in the old testament that reminds me much of the mirror idea of what Yeshua was supposed to have been. I am speaking specifically of Abraham and Issac. If Abraham would show the extent of his faith in G-d as to sacrifice his beloved son could it be possible that G-d felt that if he was willing to do just that for him that he as G-d could do the same for human kind?
I could go on about this but I think that's enough for now. I wrote an entire report on the movie Kingdom of David, Empires. I wish I had more feedback on it.
Bless
2007-02-04 12:51:41
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answered by dont want stalkers 3
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Let's just say that Christians could focus their energies on converting nonreligious people and less on converting those who follow traditional and established religions because they happen to disagree. I think everyone should believe in their Creator, but it doesn't rest or fall on Jesus. I do think of Him as a Prophet with Divine qualities, but it doesn't matter about the holy trinity, the notion of Him as a Messiah, the virgin birth, etc...
It doesn't follow Jewish law, anyway...it is time to move on...Christianity is a wonderful religion when not practiced in a literalist form. I think it is more brainwashing, ignorance and an excessive evangelical desire to convert than any form of hate...
2007-02-04 18:36:10
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answered by Anonymous
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Moshiach is to be an earthly king. J did not even come close; although there were many followers, as there were for bar Kochba and for Sabbatai Tzvi, and many of the other false messiahs.
When the Jewish followers of J realized that he was not Moshiach, people like Saul/Paul saw it could work to their advantage to keep the sect going -- so he changed what J was teaching, combined it with the mystery and other pagan religions of the area at that time, and removed the requirement for followers to become Jews to make it more acceptable to the nations..
No Jews believe that J is Moshiach. There is a group of xtian missionaries who pretend to be Jewish. They use Jewish sounding names and perversions of Hebrew prayers to try to fool lonely, elderly, or under-educated Jews into thinking they are not becoming apostates. These xtian missionaries call themselves "messianic Jews."
In truth, all Jews long for Moshiach - we are all "messianic" in that sense. But these missionaries, who call themselves, "rabbi" but were ordained by xtian seminaries (usually Baptist) are not Jewish, nor is what they teach.Jewish.
I can't prove to you that you are a Jew, but I can prove that the "messy Jews" are not.
2007-02-04 13:15:07
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answered by mourning my dad 3
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For those who believed in him (and they were Jews living in Israel of the time) he was the Messiah. I have nothing to prove, people believed that he was the Messiah and that is that. If on the other hand you know something more about the coming of the Messiah (except that he'll come riding on a white donkey into Jerusalem), please enlighten me, and pretty please, don't tell me that he will show a passport or identity card from heaven saying that he is the Messiah of all the Jews.
2007-02-04 12:46:26
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answered by Anonymous
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No Jesus was not Jewish and the Bible does say so!
1.Luke 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,
2.Now Joseph was not the father, God was--Mary was not the mother---Holy Spirit was by faith; Luke 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
3. Jesus was first born amoung many believers;Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
4. In Jesus you are not a Jew or Gentile; Romans 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Colossians 3:11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
Is truely amazing to me how few people do know the truth of the scriptures. But here is the important scripture Jesus Christ came as and the Jews believe this; Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
You believe this but you think it was not Jesus Christ because he did not set up the throne of David in his days, the disciples did not know either they must wait 2,000 years for these promises to come to pass. Do not feel alone in this though because none of the Old testament prophets knew about this mystery of God
2007-02-04 12:44:51
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answered by sirromo4u 4
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The Jews don't believe He is the Messiah. However, many prophecies from the Bible lined up exactly to foretell what happened when He was born, and I believe that is proof. I don't expect you to believe the Bible, since your question shows you really don't want to learn something; you're just asking for the sake of an argument. Someday you will know the truth. In the meantime, believe what you will.
2007-02-04 12:40:30
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answered by ? 6
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No, I don't think so. I don't think the Messiah was originally understood to be very like Jesus turned out to be. But I do think he intentionally set out to fulfill the prophecies, in effect to make himself the Messiah. You will have to judge for yourself whether or not he succeeded in that. Christians would say yes, of course, but not perhaps be very comfortable with my description. To them, he was conceived and born for the purpose of being the Messiah. Indeed, judging from the opening verses of St. John's gospel, and from doctrine promulgated centuries after Jesus' death, he was with God and One with God from the beginning.
2007-02-04 12:41:17
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answered by auntb93again 7
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He is the Messiah the one foretold in the Old Testament. He came from the House Of David even though born Divine of the Holy Spirit and Mary. Therefore is of Jewish descent. I think God wants us to look at the evidence and make up our own minds and pray to Him for guidance, inspiration and faith.
2007-02-04 12:41:45
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answered by Birdman 7
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No, he's not the 'Jewish Messiah' today ... nor was he when he was alive ... because you are a Jew now, and not back then, I can't prove to you that he's the JEWISH Messiah now. To those of us who believe he's the Only Begotten Son of God, and is our Savior, who DIED FOR ALL OUR SINS so that we would be all forgiven in heaven, I don't think it really 'matters' whether he was the Jewish Messiah or not, because the Jewish Messiah was to be the KING OF THE JEWS who were alive then, and not the King of Heaven ...
2007-02-04 12:41:12
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answered by Kris L 7
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