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God
*Ep 3:9 God, who created all things

Jehovah alone
*Is 44:24 I, Jehovah..., stretching out the heavens by myself. This does not allow for a "junior partner" in creation. Jehovah clearly states that He Himself created the heavens without the aid of anyone else.
*Is 48:13 My own hand laid the foundation of the earth and my own right hand extended out the heavens. This does not allow a "junior partner" in creation. See also Heb 3:1-4

Jesus
*Jo 1:1-3 all things came into existence through him. If Jesus is a created being then he is a "thing". But this verse says all "things" came into existence through Jesus. This excludes Jesus from the realm of "things" and puts him in the class of being uncreated, eternal, not part of the created world.
Col 1:16 by him all [other] things were created. What is [other]? How can that be "understood" if it isn't present in the original language?
Rev 3:14 arkhe = beginning Note: same arkhe applied to Jehovah in Rev 21:5-7. How is Jehovah the "beginning" as the WT demands that arkhe must be translated? [Should You Believe In The Trinity? p.14]
*Ps 102:24-27 Who? Jehovah?
*Heb 1:10-12 This is a direct quote of Ps 102:24-27 and is applied to Jesus. See also Is 44:24

2007-02-04 10:13:43 · 12 answers · asked by Prodical Son 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Jesus was assigned by God to actually perform the creative works. The ultimate creative power originates from God the Father, and that power is actually exercised under the Father's direction by (or "through") the "master worker" Jesus Christ (See Proverbs 8:22,27-30 "I came to be beside [God] as a master worker").

Here are other Scriptures which clearly teach that Jesus served as God's creating agent (and that Jesus is not himself without beginning)...

(Colossians 1:12-16) Thanking the Father... He delivered us from the authority of the darkness and transferred us into the kingdom of the Son...15 He [the Son] is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16 because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All other things have been created through him and for him.

(John 1:3) All things came into existence through [Jesus the Word], and apart from him not even one thing came into existence.

(John 1:10,14) The world came into existence through him, but the world did not know him. ...So [Jesus] the Word became flesh and resided among us, and we had a view of his glory, a glory such as belongs to an only-begotten son from a father

(John 17:5) Father, glorify me [Jesus] alongside yourself with the glory that I had alongside you before the world was [created].

(Hebrews 1:1-4) God... has at the end of these days spoken to us by means of a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the systems of things. [Jesus] sustains all things by the word of his power; and after he had made a purification for our sins he sat down on the right hand of the Majesty in lofty places. So he has become better than the angels

(Revelation 3:14) [Jesus] the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God...

(Genesis 1:26) God went on to say: “Let us ["the Father" and "the Son"] make man in our image, according to our likeness

(1 Corinthians 8:6) There is actually to us one God the Father, out of whom all things are, and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are

(Micah 5:2) And you, O Bethlehem Ephrathah, the one too little to get to be among the thousands of Judah, from you there will come out to me [Jehovah] the one who is to become ruler in Israel, whose [Jesus'] origin is from early times [rather than without beginning]


Thanks for the opportunity to discuss the distinctness and relationship of Jesus and Jehovah!

2007-02-04 13:35:46 · answer #1 · answered by achtung_heiss 7 · 4 0

Isa 44:24 conflicts with the doctrine of the Trinity. In the Trinity’s doctrine, there are THREE creators. But Isa 44:24 states that there is ONLY one CREATOR, Jehovah, he is the only Creator. If what you said was true, then this text doesn’t allow for ANY partners as well because of the term “by MYSELF”.

Jehovah used his Son, in the creation of things. Jesus was used as a channel and instrument in doing things (through him)(John 1:1-3). When you say “I. by myself, write this document”, it doesn’t mean that you never used a pen, or a computer to write the document. The Father does the works through his Son, Jesus.

1 Cor 8:6 stated the differences between the Father (ORIGIN) and Jesus (CHANNEL, THROUGH).

there is actually to us one God the Father, OUT of whom all things are, and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, THROUGH whom all things are, and we through him


Regarding the term arkhe, notice that the Father, is never called, “, the beginning of the creation BY God” only Jesus is called that term. This term can be properly understood as “of the CREATION BY God, Jesus is the beginning”. This basically means Jesus is still part of the CREATION, notice the term OF THE CREATION BY GOD, eventhough he is the beginning, ruler, etc. When someone says “Of the horses of the Smiths, this one is really fast”. The “one”, is still a horse, a member of that group, owned by the Smiths, and not a Smith. So when the Bible described Jesus as “of the creation by God” , it only means that Jesus is still a member “of the creation by God”.

2007-02-05 03:04:59 · answer #2 · answered by trustdell1 3 · 2 0

Jehovah is our creator. Jesus is the firstborn of all creation and his father's helper.

Throughout the Scriptures Jehovah God is identified as the Creator. He is “the Creator of the heavens, . . . the Former of the earth and the Maker of it.” (Isa 45:18) He is “the Former of the mountains and the Creator of the wind” (Am 4:13) and is “the One who made the heaven and the earth and the sea and all the things in them.” (Ac 4:24; 14:15; 17:24) “God . . . created all things.” (Eph 3:9) Jesus Christ recognized Jehovah as the One who created humans, making them male and female. (Mt 19:4; Mr 10:6) Hence, Jehovah is fittingly and uniquely called “the Creator.”—Isa 40:28.

It is because of God’s will that all things “existed and were created.” (Re 4:11) Jehovah, who has existed for all time, was alone before creation had a beginning.—Ps 90:1, 2; 1Ti 1:17.

Jehovah’s first creation was his “only-begotten Son” (Joh 3:16), “the beginning of the creation by God.” (Re 3:14) This one, “the firstborn of all creation,” was used by Jehovah in creating all other things, those in the heavens and those upon the earth, “the things visible and the things invisible.” (Col 1:15-17) John’s inspired testimony concerning this Son, the Word, is that “all things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence,” and the apostle identifies the Word as Jesus Christ, who had become flesh. (Joh 1:1-4, 10, 14, 17) As wisdom personified, this One is represented as saying, “Jehovah himself produced me as the beginning of his way,” and he tells of his association with God the Creator as Jehovah’s “master worker.” (Pr 8:12, 22-31) In view of the close association of Jehovah and his only-begotten Son in creative activity and because that Son is “the image of the invisible God” (Col 1:15; 2Co 4:4), it was evidently to His only-begotten Son and master worker that Jehovah spoke in saying, “Let us make man in our image.”—Ge 1:26.

2007-02-04 17:33:45 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

God. Genesis 1:1. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

2007-02-04 10:21:54 · answer #4 · answered by meeke 1 · 2 0

I like to start at the beginning....

Genesis 1:1 - In the beginning...God created the heavens and the earth....

2007-02-04 10:33:35 · answer #5 · answered by Jennybobenny 4 · 1 1

Unknown

2007-02-04 10:16:32 · answer #6 · answered by FAUUFDDaa 5 · 0 2

All things came through the Trinity

2007-02-04 10:20:19 · answer #7 · answered by Midge 7 · 0 2

well I am a jehovahs witness and Jehovah created the whole earth

2007-02-04 10:19:49 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Or Billions of Gods and Goddesses that the christians dont want to acknowledge?

2007-02-04 10:17:13 · answer #9 · answered by xians_are_evil777 2 · 0 2

God.

2007-02-04 10:17:21 · answer #10 · answered by Charlene 1 · 2 1

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