A question to BOTH atheists and christians?

Question

Athiests, what "moral laws" are we "shoving down peoples throats?"

My brothers and sisters in Christ: why can't you admit that our belief in Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior is based on faith and not science? Haven't you considered what Jesus said to Thomas?: "Blessed are those who have NOT seen and yet have believed"-John 20:29

Answer 1

Restrictions on stem cell research, limitations and prohibitions of abortion, prohibitions on same-sex marriage. The teaching of abysmally poor 'science' under the guise of equality, prayer in schools.

Shall I continue?

Answer 2

I'm not Atheist but I'm also not Christian so I believe I can answer your question.

The 10 Commandments, for a start. They are based in the notion of "sin." Prior to the original monotheistic construct known as Judaism, sin did not exist. The world functioned then, as it does now, through the Law of Attraction. In short, what you put out there is returned or given to you. Pure cause and effect. Consequently, I find it arrogant and unnerving when this particular moral code is shoved down my throat because it is based on the false concept of "sin."

They you have the Book of Leviticus. I could spend hours on this one alone. There is so much hateful sh.it in there that I frankly don't know where to begin. A very judgmental text rife with material to support things like slavery and negative homophobic behavior.

The bible is a text that creates obstacles and barriers to real human understanding and harmony. The "morality" within it's pages is "suspect" to speak at all kindly of it.

Answer 3

So you will all be staying OUT of science class then??? If it isn't published in a peer-reviewed scientific journal it doesn't belong there.

And I won't have any more idiots knocking on my door or leaving trash on the same door??

You do those two things as an entire group and you can talk about not shoving thing at people. If not, then you are.

Answer 4

I don't get why Christians feel like they need to convert everyone to their belief. I haven't read the entire Bible but doesn't it preach tolerance and acceptance? Forcing others to conform isn't very tolerant. I find it hard to try and force someone to share my views especially when Jesus wasn't trying to start a new religion, he was trying to reform Judaism. In my opinion, the best way to spread Christianity is to share with people the Word of God at their own pace. Like easing them into it, and only if they want to. You cant force your beliefs on others, the harder you try the harder they buck.

I agree with you on religion being faith based. You shouldn't need proof to believe in God. After all, what does God have to prove to you? If you think about it, its a pretty vain thought that God should prove his existence to us.

Answer 5

What planet do you live on? Where have you been? Christianity has attempted to be the moral authority on this planet for the last 2000 years. And it has mostly been successful in this through bloodshed and oppression. Try reading the history of your religion some time.

Answer 6

Just one example: About a dozen states voted for anti-gay-marriage amendments to their constitutions in November -- that qualifies as both a moral law and as imposing some people's belief on everybody.

Answer 7

I am not an atheist, but I am going to answer both parts.....

Moral laws:
Any law past that governs what I do in the privacy of my own home... Telling me who I can and can not marry
Trying to make it illegal to be homosexual
Making porn illegal
No alcohol on Sundays
Any law that forces your morals on me
Trying to close strip clubs
Laws saying that nudity is illegal
Laws saying that there is to be bible classes in school
If what I am doing is not affecting you then don't try to make laws about it.

Well to me science and religion are the same they are both ways to understand God and his creation. I do not need science to believe I have God in my life every day. His love and guidance helps me to be the person that I am.

Answer 8

I agree with Triforce.

And none of us ever said that your beliefs were based on science.

I think that the Christian beliefs are bull, no offense, because there is so much evidence against that.

Answer 9

Theoretical Science #1

Man grows food, etc.
Man plants trees, etc.
Man raises cattle, etc.

grows:

To allow (something) to develop or increase by a natural process.

plants:

To place seeds or young plants in land.

raises:

To breed and care for to maturity.

Theoretical Science #2

Man clones food, etc.
Man clones trees, etc.
Man clones cattle, etc.

clones:

To make multiple identical copies of.

Theoretical Science #3

Man creates food, etc.
Man creates trees, etc.
Man creates cattle, etc.

creates:

To cause to exist; bring into being.

All definitions derived from: http://www.dictionary.com

Which Theoretical Science is not fact?

Answer 10

Christians try to advance their personal moral laws when they:

Attempt to institute prayer in school, or blame society's ills on the lack thereof.

Refuse to allow gay marriage because it would violate what they believe their god sanctioned marriage to be.

Refuse to allow gay adoption for the same reason.

Place religious icons on public, property.

Tell any person what they are going to hell for not believing in Jesus, his death and his resurrection.

Attempt to have religion --i.e. "creation science" -- taught in a public school.

edit -- nobody "knows" Jesus -- the man is dead. You may have read about him, may believe in him, may try to live your life in emulation of him but you do not "know" him. This is the sort of thing that frustrates atheists. *Belief* we can deal with. A claim to know a dead man -- hogwash.

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