It looks like Iraq, but it feels like Compton. Agree or disagree?

Question

Follow this through. We have a history of misstating what our conflicts are. I would say that what we did in Vietnam was a war, and what we are attempting to do in Iraq is a police action. It was a war, the first time we went over there, for about 23 days it was a war, then it was about the removal of a genocidal dictator. OK, mission accomplished. But the reality is that we are using soldiers to do the jobs of police. I came to the realization that what they are fighting is a series of inner-city street gangs with explosives. They are not hugely organized or united, except in their objection to us being there. They are warring amongst themselves.

If we were not there, and they continue to blow each other up there is nothing we can do about it. Have you ever heard the phrase you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink? They have to decide to stop killing each other, we can not take any of the multitude of sides there are to this emerging democratic dynamic. By being there we are seen as supporting a certain political faction. Sure the truth is that what we are supporting is an oppressed majority. Now they are free and they need to take care of themselves. We can only advise them, we cannot afford to try to enforce peace between fundamentalist extremists. The actual percentage of militants to peaceful Iraq’s has to be less than 5% of the population. The general public does not want to be in a situation where they may be blow up at any minute. You can't teach common sense...

Answer 1

I salute you.

You are the first and ONLY anti-war person that has made sense in any way whatsoever. I wont say I agree 100% with you But you do have valid points that I do agree with.

But I absolutely hate those who are Anti-war while being totally brainless and just start shouting curses and saying things like: "Bush is the real terrorist" and other crap like that.

I am all for going into Iraq. Saddam needed to be GONE. We defeated him in a very short time. The mission over there has now changed. There have been many mistakes made in the follow-up and rebuilding stage. The way things are going right now is not good. but what to do that will make a positive change... I dont have a clue any more than the next man.

I Don't think a sudden pullout is going to help though. It will do far more harm than good. It will embolden other enemies to Attack the USA here on our soil. and for the vast majority of Iraqi's that do want freedom and peace, it would be a death sentance.

I am strongly against all the braindead idiots that make unsupported and rabid claims of "It was for the oil"
"Junior was getting back at Saddam for Daddy" and "Bush is a war criminal" crap.

Answer 2

The original situation was created with the US/UK backing of Saddam against Iran. This "genocidal dictator" was kept in power to serve US interests in the region. During this period, Saddam used US supplied chemical weapons and gas against the Iraqi Kurds earning a slight "tsk,tsk" from Washington. Those weapons were to be used against Iran only. Following the Kuwait screw up, Papa Bush encouraged the Shia Muslims in the south to revolt against Saddam's Sunnis and the US would back them. Well they did and Bush didn't. During the current invasion The US are finding mass graves. They are the remains of the Shia s who trusted Papa Bush.
So now we have a so called democratically elected US backed government somewhat in power, if not control. The situation has quickly turned into a "civil war". The clumsy execution of Saddam, has made him more of a martyr than anything else. The "puppet government" is chomping at the bit for the US & Coalition forces to get out, so they can commence some "ethnic cleansing", not unlike Rwanda, of there own for the years of oppression under the Sunnis and the US is sitting there stunned trying to figure out,"what happened?" The whole problem started over 50 years ago when the CIA caused the elected governments of both Iraq & Iran to be overthrown. It's been downhill ever since. The US has to learn to mind their own business. But , you are right, the US forces in Iraq are a glorified Police force, trying to keep the lid on a very explosive situation.

Answer 3

no