Would a Muslim apologist care to explain this please?

Question

(Sahih Bukhari 004.52.176)

"The Day of Resurrection will not arrive until the Moslems make war against the Jews and kill them, and until a Jew hiding behind a rock and tree, and the rock and tree will say: 'Oh Moslem, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!'"

OK, that's not from the Koran, but it's an accepted Hadith, and it illustrates the not-so-peaceful nature of MANY Islamic teachers.

So, what is a good excuse for this CRAP?

Answer 1

Happen to be listening to E.D. Hill during a Fox News special about radical Islams...they start training their kids to hate Jews, Christians and the West in general as early as 3-4 yrs old.

These people are beyond trying to reason with at this point.

Hopefully Christians will be the survivors of the upcoming
Holy World War III and any Muslims left will be made to change
their ways.

Answer 2

Is it just me or does anyone read the Yahoo.com News.
It is on the front home page. It comes up when this comes on.
It says Hamas and Fatah killing palestine
Sunni and shiite killing each other 120 killed when a bomb blew up. Then you ask why something says they have a not so peaceful nature???? did you just get here?
they have camps where they train kids, young men to hate and kill. Sucide bombers ready to die to kill others.
Then it said they have 2000 sucide bombers ready to go this summer and their only fear is not enough targets.
Get out of there and let them kill each other.
They just got out of an 8 year long war with Iran and Iraq.
Which devasted both countries and killed over a million people.
Afganistan was in a war with Russia that lasted until Russia was economically destroyed. They rape to get enough kids to keep up the fighting. It has been going on for centurys.
One thing I have to give them. They don't have to worry about old age pension or social security. They don't live long enough to do much more than rape some kid and raise a bastard child to kill to keep up the killing of each other.

Answer 3

Typically we do not translate any Hadith or Ayah in the Qur'an into any other language besides Arabic as many things are lost in translation. However, from what I was taught, it is NOT neccessarily that the Muslims will MAKE WAR themselves, war may be brought upon them. The FALSE messiah will come and MANY people will follow this person (possibly mistakinging him for Jesus) then Prophet Jesus will come and fight alongside the Muslims against this false messiah. This is when by the mercy and will of GOD some of the trees will indicate to the Muslims that one of their enemies if hiding behind the tree to kill him. That is all that this is explaining. If you have any other questions feel free to ask. Thank you.

Answer 4

It may be a Hadith, but I cannot say how "accepted" it is. Hadiths are sayings of the Prophet, and vary in reliability. Some have a cited beginning source, such as Aisha, that are highly respected and whose chain for relating is unbroken; others are just something that somebody thought was said at one time. It is also very important when looking at a Hadith to see in what context it was delivered; was it during a time of war, a time when certain Jews did, indeed, betray the Muslims?

Another thing I would note is that this is a translation of a Hadith. Translations are notorious for being shaded to appeal to certain sects. Wahhabists tend to translate things with specifics against other groups such as the Jews. And since the Wahhabis are bankrolled by the Saudis, it is easy for them to make sure their version of things gets out there.

I would suggest you use a source that has several different translations for Hadith and Qur'an, so that you can compare them. The citation below will link you to a site from USC's Muslim Student Association that does this, without commentary.

I find the translation of this Hadith a bit different there:
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:

Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight wi the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "

Interesting difference in tone, though I do not agree with killing anyone. I will agree that there are some who say they are Muslims who think killing is fine; they persecute other Muslims as well as people of other faiths. But many of us aren't; check out the website of my Sufi order.

Answer 5

Hey there is NO excuse to this. And this is NOT crap. Why?

This refers to the End of times. When the whole world will be in a state of turmoil and confusion. The anti-Christ will arrive on earth and form an army for destroying all believers.

Jesus Christ (Peace Be Upon Him) will return to earth and this WILL be the final battle. Normally, in an Islamic state, any Non-muslim can live peacefully paying a tax called as 'Jiziyah'. A Non-muslim who pays this is secured and the Islamic state will protect his life, property, places of worship etc.

But Jesus Christ will NOT accept Jiziyah, as this will be the LAST sign of GOD towards mankind i.e. to accept that Jesus Christ is 100% human and a MESSENGER of GOD.

Else it will be a fight to the finish. Those who will reject him will ofcourse be the Jews who will align themselves with the Anti-Christ.

Now the RULE of the Battle, Fight and kill your enemy. Is this NOT Logical?

Answer 6

nicely, watching the historic past of the issue, i come to those following conclusions. The very earliest conquests via Muslims have been certainly quite often protecting in nature, yet later, it became much less approximately faith and extra approximately wealth, potential and greed, the comparable as with the different political and protection rigidity management. simply by fact the Muslim armies extra suitable, they won extra spoils of conflict, they won extra potential, they enslaved extra people (as all international locations did on the time), so why might they like to provide up? Who might? to assert that the Muslim strengthen became into in easy terms protecting is an entire lie, yet to assert that they have been pushed via blood lust and a fanatical prefer to transform the international is likewise no longer real, simply by fact the Muslims armies could have the two forcibly converted all the persons they conquered or killed them and those did no longer take place on a large scale in any respect. They have been people and have been pushed via greed and potential, organic and straightforward, from the 1st actual rifts interior of Islam and the upward push of the tyrannical Umayyad dynasty, it became into by no potential approximately faith, faith or god, it became into approximately potential and greed.

Answer 7

It's a sort of misunderstanding it's mentioned in Hadith ( words of prophet Muhammad ) what mentioned above , but don't take it in it's full sense or don't take it literally ,

we can undoubtedly argue that Jews are the enemies of mankind , When mentioning about their deeds in history ( Palestine ,and other countries ) it mentioned so, it doesn't mean that the stone will talk or the tree will move it's a warrant to the Jews who make trouble in the world that there will be a day when nobody will come to help them (not even America !! )

Answer 8

ok.....i dont think this hadith is referring to every jew but the jews that will make war on islam. there is mention of dajjal (the antichrist) being followed by many jews. now i dont believe that this means that they should kill innocents--that goes against everything i believe and everything the Quran teaches. the Quran even says that jewish and christians can go to heaven as long as they believe in God and are righteous. that doesn't make sense at all......and there is no good excuse for someone who because of this hadith decides to hate jews. this is hard i'm not a apologist if i believed islam taught hate i would not be a muslim. as someone mentioned already, not all hadith are authentic--this could be completely false.

what the Quran says about jews:

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It was We who revealed the law (to Moses): therein was guidance and light. By its standard have been judged the Jews, by the prophets who bowed (as in Islam) to Allah's will, by the rabbis and the doctors of law: for to them was entrusted the protection of Allah's book, and they were witnesses thereto: therefore fear not men, but fear me, and sell not my signs for a miserable price. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) Unbelievers.

"And there are, certainly, among the People of the Book [Jews and Christians], those who believe in God, in the revelation to you, and in the revelation to them, bowing in humility to God: They will not sell the Signs of God for a miserable gain! For them is a reward with their Lord, and God is swift in account. (The Noble Quran, 3:199)"

"Not all of them are alike: Of the People of the Book [Jews and Christians] are a portion that stand (For the right): They rehearse the Signs of God all night long, and they prostrate themselves in adoration. They believe in God and the Last Day; they enjoin what is right, and forbid what is wrong; and they hasten (in emulation) in (all) good works: They are in the ranks of the righteous. (The Noble Quran, 3:113-114)"

"Those who believe (in the Quran), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. (The Noble Quran, 2:62)"

Answer 9

Koran is just a rip off of the bible and there your problem becuase they think they righteous hand of god and war over religion is the last thing our wants!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

war and religion should never mix!!!

but they cause most wars so they are a not righteous!!!!

Answer 10

well you can just ask any Jew why they plant this tree specifically not any other tree they know the truth in a way or another