If People Do not Have a Choice about being Gay, then why Would God Consider it a sin?

Question

That is one of the most effed up things about religion.


Do people realize that gay people can't HELP but be gay?


I know this because I had a friend who tried to be straight for 15 years of his life. Then, after that he completely broke down and admitted that he was gay and that he had tried to hide it in order to avoid being taunted by people.


Clearly he did not wake up one sunny morning and just say, "Hmmm, this is a fine morning to be gay! :)"


I can't understand why god-loving people can be gay-hating people at the same time.

Answer 1

Every man sins........Not merely homosexuals....ahhh but they were made that way.......We all are made with sin natures...Is God righteous or not? A righteous God does not say sin is not sin. The wages of sin is death...God is a loving and merciful God who paid that penalty for us. God does not hate gays being gay is no more of sin than any other sin and the wages of sin for all of us is the same...But the atonement is available to us all... do you think God should only judge heterosexuals? We are ALL sinners and are all judged accordingly and because we are dead without God he paid the penalty of death for us.

Answer 2

There are so many angles to this. As a person who's tired of the Fundy Christians tryig to beat all homosexuals into their submission, I take your question seriously. I sometimes appear on LGBT section of this site in order to defend Gays that might be desiring to come to God, but don't for fear of being too much of a sinner. (Which is a notion that the Fundies seem to be able to get across to Gays, unfortunately. )

I think that there is more than one reason why people are Gay:
1) They are born that way, either through DNA or the supported study that links hormone inbalances to the fetal development:
2) They convince themselves that they are:
3) ( My reason that I am been Bi) I was exposed to a sexual atmosphere as I was growing up.

But where I part with much of my Christian bretheren is on the Gospel Message, ironically. They would focus on the sin and begin a "Repent" message, whereas I would approach the message from the Gospel standing. This is because:
1) Jesus said to preach the Gospel:
2) I think that Gays are no worse a sinner than I or anyone else- including Christians that spill the message of repentance.

Being born Gay is to me just another example of sin in us. I would liken it also to the reason why some babies are born dead. It's not anyone's fault unless we want to blame Adam, but it is not the way it would be had sin never entered into mankind.

So the idea that is often atached to certain sins- " God doesn't make any mistakes is a misnomer. It simply doesn't apply. What is evident to me is the sin nature that each and every one of us carry in us. In some it manifests in the womb. In others- they become people like Adolf Hitler. Not necessarily deformed physically, but misguided - the ability to be misguided.

So I try to let Gays know that being Gay is nothing IF they trust in God through Jesus Christ. Only then do any of us get any reprieve! Especially when it comes to the subject of eternity.

Answer 3

NO one is born to have absolutely no choice but to live in sin and never be able to obey God. GOD says Homosexuality is a sin. God says that this is not natural.
God condemns it. AND What God says is the only thing that counts. Romans 1:22-32 Clearly states how this un natural SEX
starts, manifests and becomes a part of the Homosexual person. AND yes they can change, if they truly believe in GOD and his inspired word. It is not fair to say that Christians hate gay people. because we do not. and God does not hate them either. BUT He does want them to repent and be saved. God is not willing ( does not wish ) that any should perish, but that ALL SHOULD COME TO REPENTANCE!

Jesus said, I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life, NO man cometh unto the Father but by me John 14:6

We all have the same choice to make.
OBEY GOD
or
OBEY SATAN

James 1:13,14,15 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
BUT every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own Lust, and enticed,
Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin; and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

For the wages of sin is death , but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Answer 4

Courage to be what you are , male and female. there is no hate in the encouragement and holding up of the truth to be real. When a group of people have chosen to stay within their own gender, they are seen as traumatized even before their birth and they remain in the state of mind as a developing fetus, unable to decide which it will be, because the growth of that choice factor had been delayed, until after birth. The scientific world can not see the Minuit particles which have choice during conception and so a larger study was needed these groups are those , the ones who were not given the choice to fully developed in the womb. now they live outside the womb in plain view. They have a fully developed conscious and that I believe science was searching for.

Answer 5

That is a good question with some wrong and very broad assumptions.
I am a God loving person, a Christian. I do not hate any gay person. In fact I do have some very dear friends who are gay and even some who have life partners. As it is while I am clear about my faith, the most important thing I can do is live Christ's love for them and not condemn them, but also not lie to them. My job is to tell them the truth in love, to tell them what the Bible says and the rest is between God and them.
We have some long talks and I just continue to pray that God will help them see their need for Him.
I have pondered this for some time, and the conclusion I have come to is this.
The Bible is very clear that we are all sinners, we are all born in sin.
And God is the final judge. He is very clear about what it is going to take to be cleansed of our sins.
He has a plan to save us and it is His desire to show us what to do but amazingly while there is a universal step, accepting Jesus as Savior.. He works with us individually to heal and deal with our individual situation.
Not all Christians hate Gays... in fact the ones who promulgate hate for anyone is in direct opposition to scripture.

Answer 6

Everything about God is creating and productive. The gay lifestyle is opposite...non creative and nonproductive as far as human life is concerned.God did not create the gay mindset. That mindset is a product of the world.

Answer 7

This is only one of the mysteries of our mortal lives. There are so many Why's?

I believe when we arrive at judgment day the most important question will be do you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior.
Are you heartily sorry for all the wrongs you may have done to another.

Then Pray God, we will be accepted into His Eternal Kingdon

Answer 8

Hmmm, I hear what you are saying. However I think it is debateable about this point.
Lets say it is true, still don't make it right. Lets just say, that I found it difficult to tell the truth and was a habitual lyer by nature - still doesn't make it right.
I am sympathetic to what you are saying, but I really truely believe that God can give people victory over sin. Homosexual acts are sin, and thus God can give victory over these. God loves homosexuals as much as he loves lyers, murderers etc. He gives them the power to overcome if they truely believe and want to overcome sin.

Answer 9

You mean people.
It's not people's role to judge, that's God's.

In one of His teachings to the disciples, Jesus tells the parable of the lost sheep. "If a shepherd has a hundred sheep, and one of them has gone astray, does he not leave the ninety-nine on the mountains and go in search of the one that went astray? And if He finds it, truly I tell you, He rejoices over it more than over the ninety-nine that never went astray." (Matthew 18:12-13)

To me, this made clear that God would leave the ninety-nine that know His love to find the one that feels separated from Him. Who better fits this category than gay people? Society has branded them as unworthy of God's love. Only in our minds can we separate ourselves from God's love. For in reality, separation from God is impossible. The sign over the door to the home of famed psychologist Carl Jung said it best, "Bidden or not bidden, God is present."

Answer 10

I know, it's true, gay people can't help feeling sexual attraction to their own race .... and alcoholics can't help but drool over a bottle of tequila .... and drug addicts get a whiff of dope and begin to shudder with longing.

It's not a sin to be gay, an alcoholic, or a drug addict. But it IS a sin to fornicate. That's the hard part. Lots of gay folks would rather sin than have to go through the withdrawals and longings that celibacy requires of them.