I find the idea of Jesus' death saving "EVERYONE who EVER lived" as ignorant. God is timeless; if it were to happen at 0AD, God knew that in 5000BC, or 10000BC or whatever - why is He subject to time?
The fact is, the concept of "saving" people is profoundly misleading. You can't just follow rules and "get into Heaven." It's about Faith, Spirituality, Understanding. About having a deep spiritual connection with God. And it doesn't matter WHAT your religion is for that.
Not one bit.
God loves us all. We are all His creation.
2007-02-02 23:57:54
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answered by ? 3
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Romans 6:23.....For the wages sin pays is death, but the gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord.
This shows that once you die your sins are paid for.
They are not saved but will be resurrected to a judjment.
 John 5:28-29.....Do not marvel at this, because the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice  and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment.
What is the meaning of John 5:28, 29? It says: “All those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment.” What Jesus said here must be understood in the light of the later revelation that he gave to John. (See Revelation 20:12, 13, quoted on page 337.) Both those who formerly did good things and those who formerly practiced bad things will be “judged individually according to their deeds.” What deeds? If we were to take the view that people were going to be condemned on the basis of deeds in their past life, that would be inconsistent with Romans 6:7: “He who has died has been acquitted from his sin.” It would also be unreasonable to resurrect people simply for them to be destroyed. So, at John 5:28, 29a, Jesus was pointing ahead to the resurrection; then, in the remainder of verse 29, he was expressing the outcome after they had been uplifted to human perfection and been put on judgment.
God rejected the Jews as his chosen people when they apostatized from his true teachings. Faithful servants of God left Judaism when they realized that God was now using the Christian congregation instead.
2007-02-03 08:07:10
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answered by papa G 6
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Those who believed in God and lived according to the law to the best of their ability, will be in heaven.
Those that did not believe in God will be raised from the dead and judged by Jesus based on their works and the books of life.
I can understand how this sounds to unbelievers, but I can just tell you what I read from the Bible.
Read Revelation 20:11-15.
11 ¶ And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
The topic, The Book of Life, is a lesson all of its own, and would not fit on this forum.
grace2u
2007-02-03 08:04:27
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answered by Theophilus 6
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The people before Jesus were accepted if they tried to find God, to follow Him the best they could. Their sins were basically put 'on hold' until Jesus died, and all sin was put on Him. "He became sin..." [shivers] Yes, they are saved. Jews are still very special in God's eyes, and still have many promises from God to be yet delivered, but they are not saved unless they "believe in the Son of Man". It is just easier for them to integrate into the kingdom, but no less chances than us gentiles.
2007-02-03 07:56:27
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answered by Anonymous
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Good question.
The short answer is that this is what the Jewish sacrificial system was for. A jew would sacrifice a pure lamb when they sinned to represent the blood of the Messiah (Jesus Christ) being shed for their sins in the future.
The Jews looked by faith (ie they couldn't see into the future but believed by faith) that this act (instituted by God) would cleanse their sins.
When Jesus Christ was sacrificed on the cross, there was now no longer any need for animal sacrifices as He had taken their place. Now for us today, it is by faith in Jesus's sacrifice for us that our sins are forgiven, and we are justified (made right) in God's sight. How cool is that...
2007-02-03 07:57:26
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answered by pennoes 2
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i was told that they are in heaven if they followed the old laws and besides doesnt the bible say only the jew is worthy of salvation? i mean this god is a jewish creation so why wouldnt he like the jews? and what about the harrowing of hell where jesus went there and took everyone out of it? like i said dont think to much on these myths youll get stressed over nothing
2007-02-03 08:44:06
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answered by Anonymous
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Since the fall of man, the basis of salvation has always been the death of Christ. No one, either prior to the cross or since the cross, would ever be saved without that one pivotal event in the history of the world. Christ's death paid the penalty for past sins of Old Testament saints and future sins of New Testament saints.
The requirement for salvation has always been faith. The object of one's faith for salvation has always been God. The psalmist wrote, "Blessed are all those who put their trust in Him" (Psalm 2:12). Genesis 15:6 tells us that Abraham believed God and that was enough for God to account it to him for righteousness (see also Romans 4:3-8). The Old Testament sacrificial system did not take away sin, as Hebrews 9:1-10:4 clearly teaches. It did, however, point to the day when the Son of God would shed His blood for the sinful human race.
What has changed through the ages is the content of a believer's faith. God's requirement of what must be believed is based on the amount of revelation He has given mankind up to that time. This is called progressive revelation. Adam believed the promise God gave in Genesis 3:15 that the Seed of the woman would conquer Satan. Adam believed Him, demonstrated by the name he gave Eve (v.20) and the Lord indicated His acceptance immediately by covering them with coats of skin (v.21). At that point that is all Adam knew, but he believed it.
Abraham believed God according to the promises and new revelation God gave him in Genesis 12 and 15. Prior to Moses, no Scripture was written, but mankind was responsible for what God had revealed. Throughout the Old Testament, believers came to salvation because they believed that God would someday take care of their sin problem. Today, we look back, believing that He has already taken care of our sins on Calvary (John 3:16; Hebrews 9:28).
What about believers in Christ's day, prior to the cross and resurrection, what did they believe? Did they understand the full picture of Christ dying on a cross for their sins? Late in his ministry, "Jesus began to show to His disciples that He must go to Jerusalem, and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised the third day" (Matthew 16:21). What was the reaction of His disciples to this message? "Then Peter took Him aside and began to rebuke Him, saying, '‘Far be it from you, Lord; this shall not happen to you!'" (16:22). Peter, and the other disciples, did not know the full truth, yet they were saved because they believed that God would take care of their sin problem. They didn't exactly know how He would accomplish that, any more than Adam, Abraham, Moses, or David knew how, but they believed God.
Today, we have more revelation than did people living before the resurrection of Christ, we know the full picture. "God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son" (Hebrews 1:1-2). Our salvation is still based on the death of Christ, our faith is still the requirement for salvation, and the object of our faith is still God. Today for us the content of our faith is that Christ died for our sins, that He was buried, and that He rose the third day (1 Corinthians 15:3-4).
2007-02-03 13:01:34
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answered by Freedom 7
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He went to purgatory and preached to captives held there. Those who repented and believed in him he freed. (1 Peter 3,18-20)
Have a grace filled day
2007-02-03 08:00:54
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answered by Anonymous
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Jesus died for this reason n even when they were crossin him he asked god to forgive them
2007-02-03 07:51:58
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answered by Anonymous
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They will miss out on nothing.
Christ's arrangement includes everyone who ever lived.
2007-02-03 07:53:28
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answered by Uncle Thesis 7
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