Do Muslims realize how silly the Abraham was a Muslim idea is?

Question

If Abraham is a Muslims ans animals are Muslims and all who submit to God are Muslims then all Christians are Muslims is any of this reational? I know animals are not religious and Abraham was thousands of years before any Muslims. Can Muslims give up this silly notion up? come on guys you don't even believe the book of Mose's who wrote of Abraham the only way you would know if he submitted to God or not is from Jewish scripture. Isn't there one Muslim who can agree this is silly?

Achilles you prove my point exactly Abraham of the Bible is a Musllim but the Bible is corrupt....You guys could do comedy!

Jarra is not like I'm asking for a concession Abraham was thousands of years before the Muslim religion!!!

Jarra is not like I'm asking for a concession Abraham was thousands of years before the Muslim religion!!!

Kimo if that is true we are all Jews correct?

Acid I am Christian and I have heard Islam is Abrahmic by teh fact they claim the God of Abraham....What some do not realize or can not say simply claiming the God of Abraham and denying everything ever taught by the God of Abraham should not consititute a Abrahamic faith any more than those who disagree with Christ are Christians and we have a few of those.

Libra you speak true wisdom they never have...none the less claiming members who were dead thousands of years prior to having a club...seems...okay I know I shouldn't say silly....but what the heck!!!

Kimo doesnt Muslims reject all scriptures and books before the Qu'ran and the ones written by the prophts of God therby doing both rejecting his word and his prophets?

Spreading the truth....there is so many things wrong wiht what you say I don't know where to start.......first there is no mention of Muhammad in any scripture from God....He is mentioned in the Qu'ran but..as I said none of God's scriptures..which in way should be a good thing for Muslims first if the word is corrupt as many Muslims teach unless God himself was corrupt he would not use corrupt scriture to reveal a prophet.....Now you say Muhammad was clearly anounced in the New Testament...Allah says he handed this Gospel to Christ and the Gospel we have was written after the resurrection....this is definitely the Gospel we had in 600 which brings up many interesting questions....If Muhammad was mentioned in this Gospel was Allah wrong bout when we aquired the Gospel? If this is the Gospel Allah was refering to...then we have the why did Allah say it was guidence and light and tell the people of the book we agree wiht your revelation? So clearly this is the Gospel he was refering to

If the part which you claim refers to Muhammad which is obvious ot anyone who isnt a Muslims it does not....which I believe is usually the Gospel of John which refers to the Holy Spirit which also says he will be with us forever....None the less if you are in agreement wiht the book of John you have to be in agreemtn wiht Jesus is God as John 1 clesrly states this and all of the Gospel is about the resurrection of Christ.....Unless Mulisms are oin agreement wiht this as the Quran surely is ...Nothing in your religion adds up..The Qu'ran says to agree with this revelation and yet disagree with the atonement and resurrection ...which is all the Gospel is...Now if you reject it as corupt and say..as many Mulsims do that this is not the Gospel Allah handed Jesus...then why are Mulsims trying to prove it reveals Muhammed? Seems Muslims want it both ways!!!

Answer 1

You wanta know what is even worse?
They say Adam was the first Muslim.LOL

go figure

Answer 2

A muslim in the eyes of Islam is any body who was wholy devoted to Allah. And he was therefore he was muslim. Christians arent Muslims because Islam says the Gospel is was corrupted, which is true, most of the Gospels in the Bible were written so long after the death of Jesus that they couldn't possibly have known him personally. And the Quran says several times that it confirmed what was sent before it. So it confirms what the Jewish scripture says about Abraham submiting to God.

Answer 3

this is a very dumb question.

what on earth do you mean?

of course the believers of the Qu'ran are not going to give up any ideas they may have, in the same way it would be ridiculous for anyone to suggest to you that you give up the idea that Jesus "rose from the dead and ascended into heaven". Taken at face value, that's a pretty hard thing to accept as well, eh?

Love and Light,

Jarrah

Answer 4

Oh man, you should do some research into what scholars call 'abrahamic religions', you're in for a surprise or two.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religions

Oh, I'm presuming you are christian.

Answer 5

They got belief to hate non-believers and books wrtten by mohammed and his followers to defend what ever they do.

They are disease to humanity.

Answer 6

Muslims believe that God sent all prophets with one religion, but with different Shari'a (laws) .. Muhammad (sas) said: all prophets are brothers, their mothers are different but their religion is one.

submission to God is by believing in him and obeying his Messengers. rejection of a book of God or a prophet sent by God equals rejection of God.

Answer 7

dude i'm not muslim but i will tell you that no way in hell is any muslim gonna feel that any of their beliefs are silly whatsoever good luck trying to get them to see things your way

Answer 8

May Peace Mercy and Blessings of Allah(swt)be on all o fyou.

IF its not true that all of the Prophets Preached Islam and MUhammad (pbuh) is the final prophet than

WHAT IS THE NAME OF MUHAMMAD(PBUH) DOIN IN THE BIBLE(OLD TESTAMENT)>AND HE IS ALSO PROPHECISED CLEARLY IN THE NEW TESTAMENT .

read below and it may open your eyes to the truth.

We muslims believe in the Torah and Injeel to be the word of God but we also believe that this present Bible is nto the Injeel revealed to Jesus(pbuh) and the present Torah is not the one revealed to Moses(pbuh) .beacuse there has been a lot of human interpolation and fabrication .Therefore we do not considered the present Bible to be the words of God as a whole.some parts may be .as the other name of the Qur'an is "FURQAN" (critaria to judge right from rong) so we use Quran to judge which part of the bible may be the word of GOD and which not. as SIR WILLIAM ( one of the biggest critics of Islam)said " Qur'an is the only religious scripture which has maintain its purest form for the last 1200 years"this he said 200 years ago.
Jesus(pbuh) never heard this word Chistianity in his life(Christianity not mentioned in the Bible anywhere) neither did he ever said that he has come to preach ChristianityNeither did its mentioned in the old Testament anywhere that Moses(pbuh) preached Judaism.and as far as the geographics are concerned they were jews because they belong to the tribe of Judah( as people live in England are called English). .

Gospel of John ch:5 v:30 that Jesus said “ I can of my self do nothing , as I hear I judge and my judgement is just . as I seek not my will but the will of my father who has sent me”.Quranic perspective is very clear that there is no other God but Allah(swt) and all the Messengers came on the face of earth belonged to the same brotherhood of prophet hood.

But since Muhammad (pbuh) is the last messenger as Quran says in Ahzab ch:33 v:
Sabah ch:34 v:28 “ we have sent thee as a universal messenger giving gladtidings to men and warning them against sin most of them , they do not understand.”.

Also Where as regarding Qur’an Allah says “ we are the ones who revealed this book to you and we are the one to protect it “.
as Quran is the last and the final revelation Allah has taken the responsibility upon him self to guard it from any interpolation and fabrication(human) as it is the complete guid for ones life .

MUHAMMAD(PBUH)PROPHECISED IN ALL THE MAJOR RELIGIONS OF THE WORLD. (hindu,parsi,sikh,budhist,incl... Bible(both old and new testaments).

I will restrain my self to the Bible only .Muhammad Mentioned by Name in Old Testament:
songs of solomon ch 5 v 16.

If you read the original text in Hebrew in says

“Hikku mummittakim wi kulli Muhammadem zehdudi wi zehdai baina yerushelum”(excuse my Hebrew as its not that good ). Meaning “he is most sweet he is Muhammad he is my friend he is my beloved O daughters of Isreal”

But when you read the English translation of the bible they translate the word” muhammadem” as “ all together lovely “ .for example if some ones name is Mr Black and if you introduce Mr Black to an arab you will nto say that he is Mr sayyah( means black in Arabic) . you will still say Black as it’s a proper noun and stays the same. No one has a right to use the translation of the proper noun in the translation as the proper noun stars the same.and the word” emm” is a plural of respect in Arabic and in Hebrew both as when you say”allohem”for God in Hebrew you add “ em “at the end(allo or ela means God in hebrew) and em is the plural of respect and not numbers).similarly its mentiones in the original text “Muhammadem”Muhammad and “em “as a plural of respect. But the word Muhammad is there .

Further in Deutronomy ch:18 v:18 “ I shall raise ye up a prophet amongst their brothers like unto thee(moses)”.
Now if you ask any Christian he would say that this prophesy fits no one but Jesus(pbuh ) and the reasons would be that both Jesus and Moses pbut are alike as both were jews and both were prophets.
If this is enough for this prophecy to fit Jesus(pbuh) than all the prophets mentioned in the bible beforeJesus and after Moses pbut were jews and were prophets so it fits all of them as well . only if you analise this prophesy fits no one bu Muhammad(pbuh) .as:
As both had mother and father ( Muhammad and Moses pbut) unlike Jesus pbuh as he did nto have a father according to the bible and the Quran.
They both were married and had children.(Moses and Muhammad) and according to the bible Jesus pbuh was not married and did not have children.
Both Moses and Muhammad pbut had natural death unlike Jesus pbuh( as false reading of the bible says that he was crucified and Quran says that he was raised up alive)
Both brought new laws unlike Jesus who said in Mathew ch:5 v:17 “ I have come not to destroy the laws and the prophets . I have come not to destroy but to fulfil”
Both Moses and Muhammad pbut were the head of the states or head of there people.
Both Moses and Muhammad(pbut) were latter accepted by there people.
Unlike jesus as mentioned in John “ he approached his own but his own rejected him”. Therefore this prophesy fits no one but Muhammad(pbuh).

Further its mentioned in Isiah ch:29 v:12
“ when the book will be given to him and when he will be asked to read , he will say that I am not learned”. And we all know that Jesus (pbuh) was learned.
Infact if we check the history than it’s a very well known historical fact that Muhammad(pbuh) was an illiterate man . and when Anjel Gabriel brought the First words of Quran from Allah(swt) and asked Muhammad to read , Muhammad (pbuh) replied “ ma ana bi Qari” meaning ! I am not learned”.therefore this prophesy also fits no one but Muhammad(pbuh).

Muhammad is also prophesised in the New Testament:
Before I mention the Bible let me mention one verse of the Holly Quran
Allah says in ch:61 v:5 “Jesus(pbuh) son of Marry(asw)was sent as a prophet to the children of Israel confirming the law that came before him and giving gladtiding of a prophet to come whose name shall be Ahmad”(Ahmad is an Alternative name of Muhammad mentioned in Qur’an (given by his mother)).
The Holly Bible says in John ch:14 v:16 “I shall pray to my father to send you another comforter who will abide with you forever”
John ch:16 v:24 “ When this comforter comes he shall glorify me “
John ch:16 v:7 “Nevertheless I shall tell you the truth it is experian for you that I go away,for I go not away the comforter shall not come , for if I depart I shall sent him.
Now in the original Greek manuscript the word used for the comforter is “ paraclitess”which is the corrupted form of the word “ pericilitoss” which means praise worthy or praisen one in English and if you translate in Arabic it means !Ahmad”( which is another alternative name for Muhammad mentioned in Qur’an as mentioned above).
Now if you ask any Christian brother he will say that here the Holly spirit will come . well I remind my Christian brothers and sisters the v no7 that the prophesy says that “ for I go nto away the comforter shall not come for if I depart I shall sent him” . the criteria Jesus(pbuh) has mentioned is that he has to go away for the comforter to come but the Holly spirit Christians are speaking about is already there even before Jesus christ(pbuh) according to the bible.. it was there when Elizabeth gave birth(bible says the spirit was there in her womb) . it was also there when Jesus(pbuh) was baptised by John the Baptist according to the Bible.and the presence of the Holly spirit is mentioned at many other places in the bible before Jesus Christ and even when he was present.therefore the criteria that Jesus(pbuh) has to go for the spirit to come and if he doesn’t go the spirit will not come is not met .

Again this prophesy by name fits only Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

So its the same message that started comming from God to mankind in parts via (Adam) to start with . and completed with Muhammad(pbuh)and is Finally given the name" the religion of pease,Islam)
May Peace Mercy and Blessings of Allah(swt) be on all of you