Why is the earth not in a fixed position like the bible says?

Question

It is generally agreed that the Bible describes an immovable earth. At the 1984 National Bible-Science Conference in Cleveland, geocentrist James N. Hanson said there are hundreds of scriptures that suggest the earth is immovable. I suspect some must be a bit vague, but here are a few obvious texts:

1 Chronicles 16:30: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable.”

Psalm 93:1: “Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm ...”

Psalm 96:10: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable ...”

Psalm 104:5: “Thou didst fix the earth on its foundation so that it never can be shaken.”

Isaiah 45:18: “...who made the earth and fashioned it, and himself fixed it fast...”

If the bible is god's word, and god's word is truth, why is our planet moving in orbit at 18.5 miles/sec, instead of standing still like the bible says?

Answer 1

And to add to that, the bible also clearly states that the firmament is a physical thing separating the fixed earth from heaven and the sun, moon, planets, and stars are merely lights placed by god in the firmament. This is why he can do things like stop the sun for a day and why the tower of Babel was a threat to reach the frimament.

Answer 2

You are right...good question..... Some twenty years of investigating claims that the the Earth rotates on an axis and orbits the Sun, and that the universe began evolving 15 billion years ago and is 15 billion light years thick, have left me without the slightest doubt:

a) That The Earth Is Not Moving;

b) That the Bible’s repeated declarations that it is the Sun that moves and not the Earth are absolutely accurate;

c) That the Big Bang Model ruling today’s cosmology is handcuffed to the Copernican Heliocentricity Model;

d) That both of these Models are built solely on contra-scientific assumptions held together by occult mathematics and fraudulent use of computerized technology

e) That those deceptive and vulnerable assumptions now undergird the entirety of modern man’s "knowledge"

f) That both the Heliocentricity and the Big Bang Models represent the fulfillment of a "creation scenario" of Kabbalic Judaism masquerading as "science"

g) That the purpose of this hidden religious agenda has been to destroy the "creation scenario" of the Bible and thereby destroy the credibility of the rest of the Bible right on through Jesus and the New Testament....

h) That the time for all who love truth over deception to give this issue their most careful and prayerful attention is now. This is especially true for all Christians who realize that their religion stands or falls on the the restoration of the absolute credibility of the Bible. This Biblical non-moving Earth issue alone can force that restoration and expose all the lies now connected with evolution-based false science (I Tim. 6:20,21).

Note this well: a) If moving Earth Copernicanism is shown to be a colossal deception, the Bible is automatically proven to be right on this major aspect of Creation. The Earth is either moving or it isn't! b) Anyone jolted into recognizing that the whole world could be utterly fooled by the Copernican deception will have little trouble seeing Darwinism as fruit off of the same tree. c) Recognizing that the physical and biological sciences have been used to make these mega- deceptions as successful as they are, no strain will be required to see how the teachings of Marxism, Freudianism, Einsteinism, Zionism, NASA's Saganism and Goldinism, Zionist-supporting Christian Fundamentalism, AND KABBALISM have been used to bring that Bible-bashing mystic religion to the verge of pulling it all off and establishing the long-planned New World Order which is already programmed to quickly rid the world of Bible-based Christianity.

Answer 3

Looking at your quotes tells me that they are not from the most accurate translation of the Bible. (King James Version)

Psalm 93:1 reads, " The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved."

There is a slight difference between "immovable" and "cannot be moved." You may argue with me, but "immovable" means stationary. "Cannot be moved" can mean that it is not going to deterred from it's given path. Like a train is not generally going to be moved from it's tracks, even though it may be moving along the tracks.

Perhaps it's better to understand that the Ordinances of the Earth (its physical laws that govern the movement of the earth.) are fixed.

Having created the heavens and the earth, God certainly would have known about its movement around the sun.

Answer 4

We haven't moved off of our rotation have we, We are still in the same orbit as we were when this earth was created. So the earth is immovable and firm in our orbit. You have to remember when the bible was wrote and at what level of understanding the original readers and writers had at the time. So the bible left out orbit but when the bible was wrote orbit wasn't in the dictionary yet.

Answer 5

The earth rotates on its axis and revolves around the sun. These movements are responsible for the seasons, night and day etc. Look at it this way, even though the earth has these movements, which make life possible for us, but it still maintains its position in the solar system (I think 3rd in planets right after Venus). Meaning you've never heard a situation where like the earth swapped spots with Jupiter, so there you go

Answer 6

It says in Revelations Jesus second cumming is to destroy those who destroy the earth. Maybe they try to move it out of its planned orbit with nuclear blasts. Its fixed in the motions that the lord has placed it. Don't try to discredit creation try to marvel in it. Were still learning things every day about earth. But, don't forget the simple also. the air we breath the fluids that give life the eyelids which moisten and clean our eyes. Who despises the day of "small things" let him rejoice when he See's the plumb line in the hand of zurbabel. Do you no what that means? Don't take the small things for granted because soon they will be destroyed.

Answer 7

The word fixed in these passages means established or founded. After looking these verses up in my bible, and reading them, It seems clear that God is saying is that the earth he established or founded will not be destroyed by man. Thank you for asking this question and bringing these verses to mind. They give a wonderful illustration that this whole global warming scam in just that...a scam. It's not science....It's all about money. God said man cannot move or shake what God has established. Thanks again.

Answer 8

While I am sympathize with what you are attempting to do this is not the example to use.

Speaking as an engineer rather than a biblical scholar, what you fail to mention is what reference point you are calculating velocities(speed). In your case you are assuming the sun is fixed when you say the earth rotates around it. As there is no fixed reference point in space we normally use the earth surface as one.

Example
A train can be said to be approaching me at 60km/h. (this assumes that I am fixed - a simplification that ignores the rotation around the sun etc).

If you pick a different reference point it could said that I am approaching the train at 60km/h.

Both are correct statements but both are wrong -if you consider some other point as the reference (and thus considered rotations around the sun, galaxy etc).

That is the earth is fixed and the sun and rest of the universe are rotating around it :-) The choice of reference plane is arbitrary.

BTW With your quotes I would have gone the earthquake angle :-)

Answer 9

The bible is mans interpretation, which has in itself been re-written and re-interpreted many times.

The people who did the writing and interpreting had no idea of Galaxy's, planets, stars and orbits. In the same manner that they don't talk an awful lot about nuclear physics. They ha not the slightest idea what you'd be talking about.

Try describing the colour blue to a man who has been blind since birth. Same principle apply. There is no common frame of reference.

You either choose to believe in a set of principles and values or you don't, regardless of the religious overtones. Atheists can still be nice and honest people. By the same argument Religious clerics and leaders can still be ruthless killers.

Answer 10

The Bible was written in a cultural setting. God reveals himself through culture. Culture is the only means God has to communicate his character. So he takes their present understanding and reveals himself.

This is the same reason that creation is told in a 7 day format. Almost every culture surrounding the Hebrews when Genesis was written or at least when the Oral Tradition began believed that the world had been created in 7 days. Therefore the story is changed, God Almighty, Elohim is put at the center and he reveals to the peopel who he is.

This is the same with the afterlife. The understanding of the Ancient Near Eastern culture was that everyone decesended into the Sheol or the grave. Wheter good or bad. Therefore in the OT the Bible reflects this cultural understanding.

Culture does not limit us UNDERSTANDIING God it gues us the ability to not only understand WHO he is but also WHAT he desires from us.

God still using our contemporary culture to reveal certain aspects of his character and will.