If God doesnt Exist, Does Morality Exist?

Question

Evolution teaches survival of the fittest. Does Might make right whether it be physical, mental, or economical?

Answer 1

Without a righteous God we have only our own idea of righteousness and one mans idea of righteousness is equal to any other man's idea of righteousness as there is no perfect judge there is no absolute righteousness.

Answer 2

How do we get the idea of what immorality is? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line.

1. The moral law is undeniable.
2. We know it by our reactions.
3. It is the basis of human rights.
4. It is the unchanging standard of justice.
5. It defines a real difference between moreal positions (e.g., Mother Teresa vs. Hitler)
6. Since we know what's absolutely wrong there must be an absolute standard of rightness.
7. The moral law is the grounds for political and social dissent.
8. If there were no moral law then we would make excuses for violating it.

So the moral law definitely exists. No one seems to be disputing that. If there is a moral law that implies there is a Moral Law Giver. For morality to exist- God must exist. Some people are saying that godless people can be moral. That is true. But that doesn't mean God doesn't exist. God's existance does not depend on our belief or disbelief in Him.
The moral law is God's standard of rightness, and it helps us adjudicate between the different moral opinions people may have. You can't know what morality is unless there is an unchanging standard of morality outside yourself. Without that objective standard, any objection to immorality is nothing but your personal opinion.

Answer 3

Evolution does not teach "survival of the fittest". Evolution was briefly adapted to that notion for which the phrase was coined in the era of Social Darwinism.

Many successful creatures are fit because of altruism. The most successful animal (by mass), the ant is socially altruistic.

As your question is deceptive in nature, if you are trying to prove that God is the origin of morality, you have disproven your own thesis. The question is immoral, since society, not evolution, is the origin of morality.

Answer 4

I do not know about the men you mentioned, but I do know that the bible says, "these signs shall follow those who believe" in Mark 16 at the end of the chapter. One of the signs is speaking in other tongues, which I do. As a kid, I tried to fake a different language and couldn't. When I was 16 I asked for the baptism in the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues. Nothing happened at 1st, till one day I got so excited about a sermon I heard, I went to shout out my joy, and out came a different language! What I am saying is that is sort of proof, the same with documented testimonies of real healing. But the bottom line is it is impossible to please God without faith. We walk by faith and not by sight. To the person who has faith in God's word, that to them, is enough proof. To others, the signs and wonders that follow after the preaching of the word, is proof enough. And also the word says that the proof of God is clearly seen in nature, (intelligent design). To some people that is proof also. And yet to others, no matter what evidence you present, it will never be proof to them! Look at the Nazi's and the Holocaust, some say it never happened even though there are the ovens as proof and the camps stand as museums and there are 1st hand testimony of people that lived through it who even wear the branding tattoos as proof! ALSO!.....I JUST HEARD A PREACHER speaking of rocket scientists getting data to launch a satelite. Their computers kept comming up missing 23hours and 15minutes every time they ran the numbers to explain how the universe looked in the past compared to now and how it is to look in the future. A Christain man on the team said that in the bible there is a part where a day was held still, (I think that was in Joshua) and a part that God moved the sun dial to show He could move time back 15 minutes for King Hezekia (in 2nd Kings I think). Wow! For someone who does not have a hard heart that can provide evidence too!

Answer 5

Morality existed in civilizations that did not believe in our modern day concept of God. It does today as well. There are countries that still practice indigenous religious concepts and they, too, have a moral code. The concept of morality and ethics falls underneath the topic of philosophy, not just religion. Evolution on the other hand has nothing to do with morality. It's a theory that involves biology.

Answer 6

If God does not exist then all morals are man made. If all morals are man made, then they can be altered to suit the desires of those who wish to ignore 'traditional' morals. For a good example, look to 20th century communist nations. They did not believe that God existed so society could be molded to the whims/will of whomever had power. With no moral right or wrongness to actions, they murdered over 100 million people whose only crime was often being different in wealth or thought from what they demanded.

Answer 7

First off, there are many atheists who are moral, and many many religious followers who are/were immoral. Mostly they were immoral towards followers of other religions. Belief in God has absolutely nothing to do with morals.

Second, evolution has nothing to do with "might makes right". It has everything to do with survival of the fittest. If back in our dim history one group of humans were able to work together, share, and trust one another, they probably hunted better, were able to overcome less cohesive groups for the safest resting spaces, etc. Yes, a group with the strongest leader tends to survive better; however, without the ability to work together and cooperate, that group will fall apart. It's been shown in chimpanzees, gorillas, and other primates, not to mention bird flocks, etc., that groups that can pool talents and work together have the highest survival chances. In animals as complicated as humans, that translates to morals. If I can't trust you not to sleep with my mate then I can't hunt with you - develop morals, if I can trust you because you are a moral person, then we work together and survive. That's evolution.

God has nothing to do with morals, except as a convenient way to mistakenly disregard evolution.

Answer 8

God and morality are not dependent on each other. Any person can have morals without believing in a God.

Answer 9

There can be no sense of morality with out the presence of God in a person's life. A person has a sense of morality because he is convicted of his sin by the Holy Spirit of God. If there is not so much as a hint of God's presence in a person's life, then there will be no morality. Morality does not have its origins in the human being, but in God.

Answer 10

Religion hijacked morality and set itself up as the sole perpetrator and guardian of human morality.
Morality is a solely ethical issue and true ,morality can only be found in a truly secular setting,
Religion is too subjective to let anywhere near morality, as it is one of the most immoral institutions known to man.
look at the bible and how morality is tailored to suit individuals and circumstances.
IE :- thou shalt not commit adultery, unless you are a king with concubines, or you are a god who breeds a 14 year old virgin.

Answer 11

Yes. And morality makes groups strong.

If two societies go to war, and one embraces moral values, and the other are a bunch of liars and back stabbers... the moralists can sit back and watch the back stabbers kill each other, and not have to lift a finger.

Morality is itself a form of 'might'.