Is there any doubt that the Holocaust the biggest crime of all was intelectually sponsored by Christian dogma?

Question

Luther and anti-Semitism
See also: Martin Luther and the Jews and On the Jews and Their Lies
In his treatise On the Jews and Their Lies, published in 1543 as Von den Juden und ihren Lügen, Luther wrote "set fire to their synagogues or schools and to bury and cover with dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man will ever again see a stone or cinder of them… I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed… their prayer books and Talmudic writings, in which such idolatry, lies, cursing and blasphemy are taught, be taken from them… their rabbis be forbidden to teach henceforth on pain of loss of life and limb… that safe-conduct on the highways be abolished completely for the Jews. For they have no business in the countryside, since they are not lords, officials, tradesmen, or the like. Let them stay at home… that usury be prohibited to them, and that all cash and treasure of silver and gold be taken from them and put aside for safekeeping...These poisonous env

These" poisonous envenomed worms be forced into labor or expelled for all time"

Remember that Martin Luther was a German Protestant...

To angelpur: Martin Luther was no Christian! is the same as saying that Marx was no marxist, sorry that's not possible in this case

to Phoenix: All that Luther described in that paragraph Hitler made a reality...

to Wayne T: Who says that Hitler being a lunatic doesn't qualify him to be a Christian? He implemented all that Luther recommended man Give up your rotten faith!

To Dr.Shmoo: WITHOUT CHRISTIANITY THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO HOLOCAUST ...you people publicly singled out the Jews for scorn and hatred cause they betrayed Jesus Christ

To Wish I had...: don't get off subject you **** the war against the Jews was started because of christian teachings against the Jews

If Christianity had nothing to do with the Holocaust why did Jean Paul II apologized to the Jews and lamented the role of the church in it?

Answer 1

Right. The Holocaust was not an isolated event.

100,000's of Jew were murdered in the 20th century in Russia and eastern Europe decades before the Nazis.

Mass rape pillage and murder of Jews had been going on in Europe long before the Nazis.

The Holocaust was a result of 2000 years of anti-Semitism and persecution of Jews, the poisoning of people's minds with wicked fantasies about Jews.

Martin Luther was a major contributor here. He was very upset when the Jews refused to convert to his "new and better" version of Christianity and therefore called for the Jews to be killed.

You can read all of Luther's anti-Semitic lunatic ravings online ...
http://www.outreachjudaism.org/articles.html

Answer 2

Wow, that quote of Heinrich Heine by Martin Chemnitz is pretty powerful.

In response to the question, is there any doubt that the Holocaust was intellectually sponsored by Christian dogma... the answer is yes. There is plenty of doubt that Christian dogma gave rise to the holocaust. Let me site the Polish Conventual Franciscan Friar, Maximilian Kolbe, as a witness. He hid up to 2,000 jews during the war. Another witness against this theory would be Karol Wojtyla, who as a young polish man before the war defended Jews against antisemitism... in case you don't know who this guy is, he later became Pope John Paul II.

Interestingly enough, though, this question hits on an interesting issue... that is that when one looks at the very philosophers that did influence Nazism what we see is a misunderstanding or even secularization of Christian thought... please note that that quote by Heinrich Heine is very powerful indeed because it hits the nail on the head. Those philosophers he mentions, especially the German idealists, had training in theology but then tried to secularize Christian thought into a philosophy devoid of a personal relationship with God. Hence certain philosophies and not Christianity gave rise to nazism and the Holocaust (not to mention Hitler's own self-hatred... his grandmother was Jewish).

Answer 3

What a brilliant insight!! We all know Hitler was such a strong Christian, waving that Bible around during that beerhall putsch....oops, I guess that was actually a pistol. Well, there was that church he pastored....oops, I guess he killed the pastor and burned the church down. Same thing.
Since this question is actually a statement, (very dishonest) I will have to say that ignorant statements like this only serve to alienate Christians, who are Israel's and judaism's greatest supporters out in the world. It is idiotic to take an aberrant line of thought which has been thoroughly condemned by the Christian churches and present it as typical Christianity! Our saviour was a jew! How is THAT anti-semitic? And to say the Holocaust, which was perpetrated by secularist self-serving wackos and say it came out of Christian teaching is beyond stupid!
Sorry to be so abrasive but there is just too much of this foolishness going around these days.

Answer 4

Hitler used religion as a convenient excuse for his actions. He was not inspired by religion, but by power and hatred to do what he did. This religious dogma you cite merely provided a convenient society in which to stage genocide. While it might have helped some reconcile this horrible act, most people, even the highly religious, only went along with it out of fear.

Answer 5

Hitler killed in the name of Evolution. He thought that the Jews were an inferior race. He thought that if he killed them all then he would speed up the process of evolution. Just one of the dangers of evolution. Those two boys that killed there classmates, their shirts read natural selection. And it happened to be that in their science class they were learning how evolution was kept alive by natural selection. Then that kid who killed his classmates and then his granparents, his note read. "If there was a God then he wouldn't let me feel the way I do. There is no God only hate." See wars aren't started because of Christians.

Answer 6

OK you people have to get this straight.

The teachings of Jesus were based on love to all living creatures.
then the people who did all those bad things, who called themselves Christians, got the idea of Christianity all twisted for their own benefit. I mean they used the name of God and Jesus to excuse their own stupidity. (Like Bush once said that God had given him the mission to destroy all evil in the world)That's why I believe in Jesus but I don't believe in the pope, or the church, or priests, etc.

Answer 7

So, Your saying that it was a bigger crime than the 20,000,000 Russians that were killed by the Germans in the war?

That is an odd conclusion to come to.

Love and blessings Don

Answer 8

Luther was an anti-semite, but he was no christian... i do not care what he said he was...unless a man's life lines up with what the bible teaches, he is a heretic

Answer 9

I highly doubt that Hitler read Luther's statements when he declared war on the Jews. IT was for his own hatered, not any religious propoganda.

Answer 10

You kill 6 people and they call you a murderer, you kill 6 million they call you a conqueror, go figure