what do you think how much a old 30 30 winchester made around 1870's?

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would be worth and it might been owned by an outlaw

my dad are ready owns the gun yes it is in good condition we really don't know if actullay owned by him but it was john westly hardin it belonged to my great grandfather or his father and it got passed down over the gerations he was suppose to on the run and his horse broke his leg and he needed another horse so he traded my greatgrandfather the gun for the horse so the story was told around lagrange texas

Answer 1

Two questions: #1. Are you sure it is a .30-30 Winchester and not a .30 WCF or .30 Remington? #2. Are you sure it was made in the 1870s?

Reasons I ask is: #1. The .30-30 Winchester came later than the 1870s; #2. If it is a .30-30 Winchester, then it is probably a Winchester 1894 (and not made in the 1870s).

Value would depend on condition and yes, year of manufacture. If it is linked to an outlaw and the outlaw is of some renown, then that would increase the value to collectors. Otherwise the value depends on the model, caliber and condition. Example: An 1892 Winchester carbine in a really odd-ball caliber (say for example the .38-40) would be worth more than one in .44-40 even though the .44-40 was more popular and a better hunting round. The .44-40 was more common therefore less valuable than a rarer calibration.

Good luck.

H

Did some quick research: The 1873 Winchester was available in .44 WCF & .38 WCF; the 1876 Winchester was available in .40-60 & .45-75 (and other big cartridges but not in .30 WCF). The 1873 was known as the 'gun that won the West;' the 1876 was known as the 'open top.' The 1894 was the first popular 'big game' rifle chamber in smokeless powder and was designated as the .30 WCF; when Marlin came out with a similar version they coined the term .30-30 because they didn't want to use the rival Winchester name. It is actually the same caliber, a 7.62x51 rimmed cartridge.

Anyway, the .30-30 Winchester (originally known as the .30 WCF) was not available until 1895 and chambered in the famous 1894 Winchester.

H

Answer 2

Unless you have some proof of ownership by Hardin,a gun collector will not pay a premium based on speculation.And your rifle is definitely not a 30-30 made in the 1870's.Winchester intoduced the 30-30 in the 1894 rifle.I suggest that you have your rifle looked at by a competent gunsmith to determine its actual caliber and approximate age.The age should be able to be determined by serial number and model number.The manufacturer will have run models with a range of serial numbers within a specific time period.Without any real facts regarding your rifle;it is worth mostly sentimental value.
And as for Hardin - his range was much further west than LaGrange.Try El Paso instead;where he is actually buried.

Answer 3

An old firearm can be an incredible find if its in good condition. I love hunting with vintage firearms. Its adds a sense of traditionalism (I think I may have just made up that word.) Just make sure it is in good condition. You should ask to fire it before purchasing it. As for it possibly being owned by an outlaw, unless it has some sort of certificate of Authenticity, dont count on it. Pay what the firearm is worth as a firearm and not for who could have possibly used it.

Answer 4

Well, you're 29 and 5 months old, so you're not too far away from 30! You're only rounding about 7 months so i guess it is safe to say that you're 30, but it is also safe to say you're 29! Good Luck

Answer 5

priceless to a collector if in good condition.