everyone keeps screaming the illegals need to get out...and go out it the right way, apply for paper work whatever... listen people most mexicans flee here and APPLY for citizenship the second they get here. its not that simple they cant just apply for citizenship over there becuase the government doesnt let them, it is a very hard process and only a few get selceted. tell me that if you were living in mexico poor as hell u applied to go to america but u got denied, you have a wife and children to take care of, you wouldnt run across the border either,,,, yes u would..... and please only mature adults respond, i do not wish to hear from retarted ignorant people and the only comments they have are sterotipical...and yes people mexicans pay taxes.... stop acting like mexicans just get handouts and take from us. because as i recall black people and sponge off the welfare system more than any race and yet these forums dont bash them like they do mexicans why is that?
2007-02-01
12:33:52
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Kat,
look up more statistics first sweetie. u cannot come at me and say that more white people are on welfare simply because there are more white people, that is the dumbest thing i have ever heard. and no u do not detect a racist tone in my question, if u did perhaps u should re-read it, and i have news for you hunny white people are becoming a minority.....
2007-02-02
15:38:49 ·
update #1
no one really answered the question i wanted answered most,,, now it doesnt matter what your view is on illegal immigrants, put that aside, put yourself in this position, i mean really imagine it, your living in a poor country dirt roads chickens walking around no work, u cant surive, u cant feed ur wife and 3 kids, u legally applied for a work visa to go to the u.s. but u got denied you dont know how youll put food on the table and u can literally see america across the border, where u hear u can find steady work, and make a better life for your family,,,now,,,,,would u run??? for those who are completely and unterly against mexicans please dont repond i dont care to hear your answer,,, but for those who can literally for a second put urself in that situation, i would really love to hear what mature, adult comments you have
2007-02-02
15:45:23 ·
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ryoung
i am not concerned with any race ina NEGATIVE manner, i am simply asking a question, and seeing what people have to say...... i for one to not have any racist feelings towards any race what so ever,,,, i just find it a little humurous on what some people have to say about certain situations.......
2007-02-02
15:51:53 ·
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breena,
im feeling a little anger in your response,,,,i do agree with u on most what of u said but perhaps you need to re-read what i said, i dont know what u are trying to say and WHAT people like me, u have no clear ideas on what my thoughts are on any of this i simply asked a question to see what other people had to say........id appreciate it the next time u answer one of my questions youd do so in a mature manner,,, it seems to me that u are pointing people out,,,,, what is it about u and people who think like you????? sweetie u dont know me,,,,, incase u havent noticed people who ask questions on here doesnt mean they agree or disagree with what they are asking they are just simply asking to see what other people thinkk,,ok
2007-02-02
15:59:33 ·
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I AM NOT DEFENDING ILLEGALS!!!! I AM SIMPLY ASKING THIS QUESTION TO SEE WHAT OTHER PEOPLES VIEWS ARE,,, I AM IN NO WAY DEFENDING THEM SO DO NOT SAY THAT I AM DEFENDING THEM SIMPLY BECASUE THEY ARE POOR, I JUST ASKED TO PUT YOURSELF IN THAT POSITION..... WHO I DO DEFEND ARE THE LEGAL HISPANICS WHO ARE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST EVERYDAY AND THE ILLEGALS ARE AT FAULT,,,DO NOT FOR ASECOND PRETEND YOU KNOW ME AND WHAT I AM DEFENDING BECAUSE YOU ARE READING MY QUESTION AND ASSUMING I AGREE WITH WHATEVER I AM STATING OR ASKING,,,, JUST BECAUSE YOU MAKE UP A SITUATION AND ASK A QUESTION ON HERE DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE AGREEING OR DEFENDING IT PEOPLE,,,,,,I SUPPOSE THAT IF YOU ASKED HAVE YOU EVER HAD ANAL SEX THEN THAT MUST MEAN YOU ARE ASKING BECAUSE YOU HAVE DONE IT RIGHT? THATS HOW YOU ARE APPLYING MY QUESTION.......
2007-02-04
06:05:08 ·
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PERSEPHONE
again, do not pesume you know me i simply asked a question to see what other peoples views were, simply i asked to put yourself in that position you automatically assmued i was defending them when that in fact was not the case.... and where do you get i support them because they are poor,, now u are putting more words into my mouth because i never said that either.... and what kind of person am i to support then turning to selling drugs for money, again those our your words i never even mentioned that, and what kind of person are you to assume that all illegals sell drugs? are you positive that all illegals sell drugs? what about the illeglas who are trying to get legal and make a honest living? you are bashing them basically saying they sell drugs too,,,, dont presume you know everything and especially dont presume that i agree with everything on here, im simply stating views and listening to see what people say, dont assume it make you look like an ***
2007-02-04
06:11:46 ·
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you people can scream illegals all you want i dont care it doesnt affect me.... the only thing i have a problem with is the americans who hate LEGAL mexicans being here and the americans who hate hispanics here on work visas,,,, and they pay taxes and social security,,,whats funny though, is while most are protesting take away there visas they shouldnt be allowed to work here,,,, the social security that they have taking out of every check,, actually goes to US!!!! unless they end up living here and retiring here (which most dont) they never see a dime in that!!!! and for those who disagree bring it, because my husbands uncle worked here for 20 years on work visas and he had social security taken out of every check and his *** is living in honduras now, and guess what he aint collecting the social security he paid out for all those years,,, but ill bet someones grandma on here is,,, and again this is only to those who oppose them being here on work visas,,,so i scream GIVE THEM VISAS!!
2007-02-04
06:18:32 ·
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People refuse to accept or remember or rather choose to ignore that we are also immigrants in this country. Unless someone is 100% Native American then you had someone along the line sail here to find a better life. Unlike the Hispanics however, our ancestors brutally murdered the Natives and stole their land. The few Natives left we felt it was our right & within our power to round them up like cattle & herd them off to reservations. At least the Hispanics aren't doing that to us. Hispanics, just like my ancestors & yours too, are coming here looking for a better life. It's the new wave of immigrants. I personally know many, many illegals who pay taxes yet they will never be elligible to file for unemployment, welfare, social security, medicaid, medicare or any other government funded program. They government is happy to take their money but refuses to acknowledge they even exist. For those who don't believe this I would have to wonder your source of information. This is what I've seen with my own eyes and lived in my own life. If the Hispanics came just for handouts why are they known as the hardest workers who will take the most menial jobs? They will work 3 jobs, all hours, any weather conditions. You will find them standing around looking for work, waiting to be picked up. Remember, these are some of the things you guys like to complain about. If they were all at the government offices applying for services they wouldn't be looking for work or working so hard. Now while this isn't across the board for all Hispanics it's also not across the board for all Whites. You can't tell me you don't know of any White people who are tax-evaders. I know of & have heard of plenty & they are usually the rich ones who can actually afford to pay. I would be happy to take one of the chronic all-American welfare abusers to the system & ship then to Mexico & in return give his/her SSN to the Mexican who is already here working like a dog. Seems fair to me.
2007-02-04 07:13:33
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answered by Pamela 5
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sweety you are so much misinformed. you better look at the statistics and see who really uses welfare. In 2005, foreign born men sampled by the Bureau of Labor Statistics had an average income of $523 per week, 69% of the average of native-born workers. Since most illegal workers earn less than other immigrants, and since they avoid surveys, we can be virtually certain that illegal immigrants earned less than $24,000 per year, on average, probably much less. Workers who earn so little pay very little income tax. We can be confident that a majority of illegal immigrants fall below the income
Not that illegal workers pay no taxes. They all pay sales taxes and through rent, property taxes. Those whose jobs are “on the books,” using false Social Security numbers, also have income tax and payroll taxes withheld from every paycheck. Researchers estimate that 55%–60% of illegal immigrants are paid on the books. The proportion is higher in factories and service industries, lower in agriculture. Even the anti-immigration Center for Immigration Studies uses the figure 55% in its work.
Illegal immigrants do not file tax returns, so we do not know what their income tax liabilities would be or who among the non-filers are illegal immigrants. But we do know something about their Social Security contributions, which, unlike the progressive income tax liabilities, are deducted at a flat rate from the very first dollar earned.
so in essence, illegals are contributing to the government no where near what they are taking in hence, our economy IS being thwarted by the influx of illegal immigrants.
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We live in a world that is regulated by rules. If we break these rules, we risk the consequences. We all want to have better lives. We all have barriers that prevent us from accomplishing what we want as fast as possible. Just because you do not have something doesn’t mean you have to break the law. This is nothing less than stealing. This is insanity. There are poor people all over this globe who want better lives but to rob a bank or kill someone to achieve wealth is a crime. Those illegal’s looking for a better life has taken the law into their hands and have committed a crime. There are ways to achieve what you want and it needs to be done legally. Poor families that need money turn to selling drugs for fast money. Do you agree with this to? Your argument (defending illegals because they are poor) supports criminal activity and entices people to carry out their dreams and wishes regardless of the law. What does this say about yourself? and if you educate yourself by READING and not go by hear-say and what you see on tv (typical), you will see for yourself that there are more white individuals on welfare than any other race. because we live in a still, white supremacist society, you rarely hear about this race on welfare. It is only the hispanics and blacks that are highlighted like this. second, if there are blacks sponging the system, they are legal. illegal mexicans are not legal and they sponge the system. this is why they bash your people instead of the blacks.
2007-02-02 10:02:52
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answered by ♣DreamDancer♣ 5
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Black Americans are just that legal Americans and entitled by law to apply and receive entitlements.Illegal aliens from any country are not.And actually the highest percentage of people on welfare are white ,simply because there are more white people in the USA.I detect a very racists tone to your question,
And as for Mexicans paying taxes,legal ones do but,the majority of illegal aliens do not pay any income taxes.The majority are paid in cash
and don't pay any taxes.The few with a TIN# or pay with a fraudulent social security card are not that high in number. The taxes that are paid are not near as much as the cost of the illegal alien to be in this country.
Again as I said before black Americans are legal citizens and deserve all that any other legal American deserves.Illegal aliens should not even be here in the USA.They need to be returned to their country .
I am not concerned with any one race of people,I am concerned with illegal aliens from any country.
2007-02-02 05:39:37
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answered by Yakuza 7
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What is it about the word ILLEGAL, that seems to confuse you and everyone else that thinks like you?
The majority of people in this country have no problem with LEGAL Mexicans (or any other legal immigrants). However, the MAJORITY of LEGAL US citizens do not want the ILLEGALS to be rewarded for their lawlessness. They are illegal, they have broken other US laws, they need to be deported. They should not be rewarded for their lawlessness---getting to go to the front of the line---while others who have tried to become a citizen through the proper, legal process get pushed to the back of the line.
2007-02-01 18:16:22
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answered by Brenna M 1
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"There are more Whites on welfare than Blacks, check your facts.I do not understand why people are so concerned about other races in a negative manner."
The problem here is a matter of numbers. Whites are 66% of the USA population.
Both Blacks and Hispanics are OVERREPRESENTED in food stamps compared to Whites. According to: http://www.fns.usda.gov/fsp/faqs.htm#20 "41 percent of participants are white; 36 percent are African-American, non-Hispanic; 18 percent are Hispanic"
So, actually, Whites are UNDERREPRESENTED where-as Blacks are hugely overrepresented.
So while you can say "Whites are the majority of welfare," look at the bigger picture and see who is actually the leech.
2007-02-03 03:21:04
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answered by Veltgen 1
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There are more Whites on welfare than Blacks, check your facts.I do not understand why people are so concerned about other races in a negative manner.I understand why Mexicans come here illegally, and I do not blame them, they are trying to support their families, they would be foolish not to try to better their condition. I will not bash any race.
2007-02-02 15:47:43
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answered by RY 5
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I've allways heard that black people are lazy. I just moved to North Pomona to a condominium I bough. 90% are blacks, 85% don;t work. My neighboor who is black has 6 people who she "helps" but i just find out she lives out of their paychecks from the goberment because some of them are mentally ill.So there is some truth about them being lazy. But anyways not every black peron is like this.
2007-02-02 07:00:29
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answered by Tijuana_girl 2
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Everyone, blacks, mexicans, whites, etc. on welfare is getting undeserved handouts. The welfare system is a disgrace which promotes nothing but laziness and dependency on others. You are dead wrong about illegal immigrants paying taxes. They don't. It's that simple. They take from the system, they don't give back to it. You sound like a typical bleeding heart liberal.
2007-02-01 17:54:44
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