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I'm talking about the Tree of Knowledge that Eve ate the apple from.


Why did god put a tree there if it clearly endangered his creations? Doesn't he have all the knowledge of the world anyway?



Something about this fairytale doesn't add up.

2007-02-01 07:34:15 · 11 answers · asked by Salt Flakes 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

11 answers

It was more of a test of free will than a tree of knowledge.

According to what I believe, had no one through all of history eat of the tree, then everyone through all of history would still be alive, and Jesus would not have had to come and be a sacrifice so that we could live.

2007-02-01 07:38:38 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The tree did not endanger Adam and Eve. Just like a wall socket in your house is not dangers unless used wrong. Why was the Tree there i don't know for sure. Parents sometimes test there children to see if they will obey or not. God gave man one rule to follow. You can eat from anything just don't eat this one. Easy enough but our nature makes us want to do the things we should not and know because of that we are still paying for that one decision.

2007-02-01 15:45:48 · answer #2 · answered by Jerahmeel 2 · 1 0

This is a portion of a Q and A session that may help clear up your misconceptions:

Q."... but Adam was not born dead into sin, he had the free ability to choose. how do you explain that?"

A. Your teacher is ignoring a little something called "the fall." We were not born after Adam's initial innocence. We were born into Adam's sin. Paul argued that the proof that all men are guilty of Adam's sin is the fact that all men die. The wages of sin is death. So, the fact that Adam had an ability to choose proves nothing at all concerning the supposed free will of men after the fall and the expulsion from Eden.
Granted, Adam had the "free-est" will of any man who ever lived (save Jesus). But, what did that freedom accomplish? Did it make him more Godly? More obedient? More righteous? Nope. It caused him to rebel.
Now, by the way, I would argue that Adam's fall was perfectly in line with God's eternal plan. Inasmuch as Christ is called "the lamb slain from the foundation of the world" (Rev. 13:8), it is obvious that God ordained the necessity of a Savior. Had God wanted man to persist in his innocence, all He had to do was keep from placing the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil in the garden. I mean, remove the temptation and there's no possibility of rebellion. Likewise, had God simply kept Satan, the tempter, away from Eve (which I certainly assume He was capable of doing), there would have been no fall. In other words, God set the stage and fully anticipated the acts of Adam and Eve and the resultant introduction of sin into the world.
So, in the largest picture, Adam did not truly have the free ability to choose. What He did was predetermined by God, who works all things after the counsel of His own will (Eph. 1:11). Sin was a necessity in order for God to demonstrate His grace. And God fashioned a scenario through which sin entered, while He was not the direct cause. He used secondary causes ---- Satan, the Tree, Eve's pride and influence over Adam, etc. --- to do the very thing He had determined to be done, all of which will result in His own glory and the preeminence of His Son in all things.

As for Adam and Eve's "free will," it was free to the extent that it was not yet corrupted by sin. But, it was not free to utterly resist sin. Adam's sin came not from within himself, but from outside influences --- Satan and Eve. And Adam's sinlessness was the axiomatic state of someone who had done nothing at all. It was not a state of moral perfection. Only God is morally perfect. Any creature is subject to God's will where their morality is concerned.

2007-02-01 15:54:51 · answer #3 · answered by BrotherMichael 6 · 0 0

Have you considered the fact that Yah may have determined that they would do so before He made them.

It says those who will be saved have been predetermined before the world itself.

Heb 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

Eph 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

1Pe 1:19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
1Pe 1:20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

Now, if the saints were chosen before the foundation of the world and Yahoshua's sacrifice was as well, then we must conclude that their (Adam and Eve's) fall was also predestinated and an act of Yah. Not that He made them disobey, but that He knew what He created and the purpose it would serve. Otherwise, there would be none to save and no purpose for Messiah. It was a display of His knowledge and will.

To what's the point of it? As stated in Eph above, that He could create a holy and blameless people who chose His will over their own in love.

2007-02-01 16:58:11 · answer #4 · answered by lil_snipe 3 · 0 0

In the garden of Eden, God employed two trees for symbolic purposes: “the tree of life” and “the tree of the knowledge of good and bad.” Failure to respect God’s decree concerning the latter brought man’s fall.—Ge 2:9, 16, 17; 3:1-24.

The significance of “the tree of the knowledge of good and bad” and of the restriction placed on its fruit has often been incorrectly viewed as relating to the sexual act between the first human pair. This view is contradicted by God’s plain command to them as male and female to “be fruitful and become many and fill the earth.” (Ge 1:28) Rather, by standing for “the knowledge of good and bad” and by God’s pronouncement decreeing it to be out-of-bounds for the human pair, the tree became a symbol of God’s right to determine or set the standards for man as to what is “good” (approved by God) and what is “bad” (condemned by God). It thus constituted a test of man’s respect for his Creator’s position and his willingness to remain within the area of freedom decreed by God, an area that was by no means cramped and that allowed for the greatest enjoyment of human life. Therefore, to violate the boundaries of the prohibited area by eating of “the tree of the knowledge of good and bad” would be an invasion of or a revolt against God’s domain and authority.— SOVEREIGNTY.

2007-02-01 16:40:39 · answer #5 · answered by amorromantico02 5 · 0 0

Here is the answer: if you do not give your people the chance to not love you than that isnt true love. If Adam and eve could not screw up then they would not know how to truly love God. Perfection is not a true way to do so. People must have choice and freewill to actually choose to love God. If you made a robot that could only love you, you would not have fun or know what that love is. But if you made a robot that had a choice to love or hate, and it chose to love you, then you really have something there

2007-02-01 15:41:13 · answer #6 · answered by Ecclesiastes 3 · 1 1

This is one of those where they will "free will" you even though it doesn't address the question. Why tempt your creations when you know what they will do and then punish them for it? You can have free will without tempting and you can have free will without punishing.

[EDIT: Chase S you said this:
"if you do not give your people the chance to not love you than that isnt true love. If Adam and eve could not screw up then they would not know how to truly love God"

-- You don't have to screw up to love someone. Nor do you have to punish them for the screwup for them to love you.

2007-02-01 15:38:59 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Freewill.

2007-02-01 15:38:23 · answer #8 · answered by pepsiolic 5 · 0 0

why all the "why did God do this?" and "why didn't God do that?" questions.
God does not always share His reasons with His
children just as earthly fathers do not do so.
does "because I said so" sound familiar to you?

2007-02-01 15:40:00 · answer #9 · answered by Chef Bob 5 · 0 1

Of course, it is a fable...what is to add up? 'you' already possess all knowledge....as we are on the earth to learn, why take any shortcuts?

2007-02-01 15:40:09 · answer #10 · answered by jmmevolve 6 · 1 2

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