Aren't inferences natural?

Question

You see a work of art, and you automatically assume that someone painted it.
So why can't we assume with the design and order in nature that there is intelligence behind that as well? Why must those who assume that there must be a God have some sort of "delusion"?

I'm not blinded. I just want to understand you better.
For enlightened human beings, some of you all sure are very unevolved in manners.

Answer 1

Scientists have been searching for thousands of years for what it is that makes things grow.

Why do things live and why do they die?
Whats the magic behind things that grow?
It cant be seen.
Science cant even think of what questions it should be asking.

Things live,die and grow because thats the way God made things,
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Answer 2

The "assume" part is the problem, I think. You "know" that somebody painted a picture, or built a house etc., because paintings and houses do not come into existence on their own. It's a no-brainer! But to assume that, therefore there must have been an intelligent designer who "created" the universe, isn't as logical. For one thing, it begs the question of how this intelligent designer came to exist, and why. Did he just pop out of nowhere? And if one doesn't think that the universe could "just happen", then why would one assume that an intelligent designer could? The ultimate origin of the universe is unknowable, and one can either accept that at face value and go about ones life, attempt to discover its origin through scientific means, or simply make up silly stories about it. In any case we all should care about each others feelings. If you choose to go the silly story route, it's nobody's business but your own, and I wish you well and would never call you delusional.

Answer 3

there is a difference between assuming a fellow human created the painting (something they've been known to do) and assuming some unseen supernatural force created, well, everything. Your argument is a little better worded than the last one but still flawed.

Especially since there is no objectively verifiable evidence for that supernatural force. Scientific theory, however, does have that. And more: it is a consistent framework. The answer to almost every interesting question in religious mode would be 'god did it'. Which frankly is a bit of a conversation killer.

Answer 4

Science has shown that this is a mistake.

Extreme order is found in a salt crystal, but no intelligent entity is responsible for putting them in that order (you could argue that the system was, but this is outside my point). You let a solution of salt evaporate an you have salt crystals form. Each sodium and chlorine ion is precisely aligned with the others. This is because it's the lowest energy state for them to be in.

They have created artificial environments with automated programs running. The system is allowed, at random to alter (or mutate) a program occasionally. When the program works better, more copies are made, when it fails it "dies". They've run these systems and found that simple mutation and selection (like natural selection) creates some programs which are more compact, faster, and work better than had been written by the best programmers. No intelligence was involved in creating the design of these final program. If you are interested, see genetic programming.

These things don't eliminate or confirm the existence of god.

From a more basic point of view, there is Occams Razor. The introduction of "God" to create things, though simplifying small aspects of this, adds more complexity without extra evidence to support it. The reason is now you have to consider something as complicated and unexplained as god. How things came about may seem a small mystery, but something as powerful and complex as God would be a bigger mystery. From a logical point of view, Occams razor would eliminate this choice as not the most logical solution to choose. That says nothing about it's probability of being correct, but it's a good rule of thumb to follow. Understanding Occam's Razor is not easy - it is much more subtle than it seems.

I disagree with those who think people who consider God exists are delusional, even though I hold no belief in God(s). I do strongly disagree with the poor and intellectually dishonest arguments presented by the Creationists.

Answer 5

You see that work of art and from past evidence that such work was created by a human, you naturally assume this current work is also. That same standard can not be applied to the natural world. Intelligent design is a simplistic, naive, superstitious, and faerie tale look at the world around us.

Answer 6

Because evolution is a better explanation for the order of nature than god. If you saw that work of art would you think the designer was a 3-year old or an adult? You would think it was an adult because that makes more sense.

You have to go with what is most likely the case.

Answer 7

its not that it cant be. nothingin evolutionary theory discounts the possiblity that some sort of intelligence got the whole thing started. think of it this way...you dont actuallybelieve that when it rains , its angels crying or an old man inthe clouds actually forming water from his hands. if you can accept the fact that rain can falldue to natural and scientific reasons but STILL believe in God, why not accept that man evolved by a set of scientific principles, and that a God set the whole process in motion?

Answer 8

Because those of us who know what a painting it have also seen someone paint a painting or else have painted one ourselves. With the "design and order of nature" we've never seen anyone make it so we have no frame of reference.

Answer 9

Who are you to claim how the creator created? The evidence for evolution is overwhelmingly clear for anyone who isn't blinded by the dogma of dusty books.

Answer 10

2 Corinthians 4:3-6..........If, now, the good news we declare is in fact veiled, it is veiled among those who are perishing, among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through. For we are preaching, not ourselves, but Christ Jesus as Lord, and ourselves as YOUR slaves for Jesus’ sake. For God is he who said: “Let the light shine out of darkness,” and he has shone on our hearts to illuminate [them] with the glorious knowledge of God by the face of Christ.