Vietnam = 1776 War???

Question

Now we all know that Britain didnt really lose it just ended up as a stalemate really.

But its the same as the US - Vietnam stalemate?

Or is it?

If Americans admit they got beaten by a bunch of people in straw huts then us Brits might conceive to letting you have the 1776 war!

If not then its all just stalemate!!

You either win or lose now did America win or lose vietnam?? I think they bailed with their tails between their legs while the rest of the world smiled!

The king of England at that time lost his support to try and keep America. So thats the same as the American public giving no support to Vietnam isnt it!

works both ways

The king could had sent more troops and we would have won. But he didnt think it was worth it, because we were streched as it was what with owning the rest of the world

Answer 1

There are similarities between the Vietnam war and the American war of independence.

Both where fought to gain freedom from oppressive colonial governments!!. Vietnam from the French! and obviously America from Great Britain.

Both wars where fought at a distance , and so where hugely expensive in both men and material..

In the case of the British though things where slightly different from what the Americans faced in Vietnam.. Remember at the time of the AWI, Britain was also fighting a war against the French on several fronts including a viscous war to dominate and rule in India. At that time it was deemed more profitable /necessary to kick the French out of India , because of the wealth that existed in the orient.

Also at that point king George 3d went mad and so His generals concentrated their resources in the Indian campaign leaving the American colony short of both men and materials,. The reasons for the Boston tea party are linked to the fact that the British government was fighting wars all over the place an needed taxes to pay for the armies.. It can only be conjecture on what would have been the out come if the British had simply concentrated its forces in the Americas!. I have a feeling that the AWI would not have happend at that point in time.

The French where beat in Vietnam, and so America in its wisdom! sent troops to aid the south Viennese government hoping that by helping to bolster that government it would alt the march of communism, and stop the domino effect ! .

The US went into that war thinking that a bunch of slop heads (sorry irregulars troops) wouldn't be able to stand upto out-standing fire power available to its forces and so under estimated the NV with disastrous effects and consequences.

Neither wars were lost! in what you might call a typical winner takes all , both wars slowed because of political difficulties, in the case of the British , it was down to not having enough money and men to keep fighting several wars at the same time. and for the Americans it was down to public opinion/ revulsion of the carnage brought to bare on the peoples of Vietnam and America soldiers..

Answer 2

When the Vietnamese defeated the French and gained their independence, their country was split into two. North Vietnam was communist and South Vietnam was basically democratic. When a group of South Vietnamese communist rebels called the Viet Cong started to try to overthrow the democratic South (with help from North Vietnam), the U.S. began to get involved in order to stop the South from becoming communist. The Viet Cong rebels were more or less wiped out in 1968 when their Tet Offensive failed to ignite a national uprising, and from that point on, the war was mostly fought by the regular North Vietnamese Army. The U.S. was unwilling to invade North Vietnam because of the possibility that China be drawn into the conflict like it was in Korea, so all the U.S. could do was wait for North Vietnamese forces to cross the border, and then destroy them. In 1973, peace accords were signed in Paris, and U.S. forces left the country. In 1975, North Vietnam violated the treaty and invaded South Vietnam again, and the U.S. was unwilling to intervene again (even though we had promised that we would). The North defeated the South, and the county was unified again. Your ignorance is understandable, since even many Americans are amazingly ignorant of the war to this day. EDIT: Other countries that fought for the South included South Korea (the 2nd largest foreign force in the country, after the U.S.), Australia and New Zealand, and Thailand. There may have been others that I'm forgetting. Both the Soviet Union and China sent advisors to North Vietnam and helped construct anti-aircraft defenses there, but they didn't send ground forces into South Vietnam, except possibly for a few Chinese advisors.

Answer 3

You Britain's need to get over yourself and back off the USA. Because if you think about it who had to help you guys during WWII.

OK face it you lost against the Irish and you lost against the US that should tell you something right there you guys have yet to win a war on your own. So it's just time you get off your high horses and join the real world.

And if you new anything that happened during the Vietnam War you just might be surprised. Try watching Forest Gump you just might learn something from that or some other Vietnam movies you just might learn something from it.

Answer 4

The UK was beaten in 1776. Plain and simple.

Vietnam was a stalemate. It was a shame so many men died, and the war is thought of in extremely negative terms, but it was still a stalemate.

You're probably quite young from the sound of your argument...no reason to be jealous of America. Britain is a great country; no need to feel inferior at all.

Answer 5

we only left vietnam because there was no support from the people but in fact if we had stayed we would have ended up winning and britain did in fact lose they surrendered, they had to the british were surrounded and if they didnt they would have been slaughtered by the US military and the French Navy and dont even try to give us (americans) crap about the vietnam war because it was the brits who appeased Hitler and then the US had to go and save your asses, and you tried to invasde us again in 1812 and you got pretty far but we kicked your *** again so dont even try to say that brits are better than americans and dont even say we didnt win our revolutionary war because we are our own country and a world super power arent we?

Answer 6

yep they tried again in 1812 & lost17000 the british losing 5000,america won battle of new orleans after treaty was signed that maddison had an envoy beg for,
we kept what we already owned & left them with the same as when they started,
so by figures that they quote about vietnam to say they won "lol"
we won 1812,
by the way whats it say on gi id card???? dont drink,gamble or fight with the british, you will lose,
so the american high up know they can not win against british so its just the general yank who needs to accept it

Answer 7

Well lets do the math.
America and allies: 56,000 dead soldiers
North Vietnam : 1.1 MILLION dead soldiers
When we left the country there was a functioning South Vietnamese government in place and a treaty with the North to stay out of the south.
Doesnt sound to me like we lost.

Answer 8

When you leave a fight with out victory you lost. Plain and simple really. We won the battles of Viet Nam but we lost the war to dissent and public out cries back home.

Answer 9

Absolutely! Washington knew he could not beat the might of the British empire so he fought to make the war costly in money and men. The same was true in Viet Nam and will prove to be true in Iraq as well.

Answer 10

They were both wars for independence. The correct heading should be Vietnam= Iraq War, both wars being invasions by US forces. I ought to know, I was part of the first one.