Ive noticed a major creationist arguement that the universe or big bang could not have occured from nothing, yet they claim an infinitely existing diety? Why can the universe not have always existed in different phases of matter (IE expansion/contraction, etc...) if their idea of "god" is infinite, or non time based?
2007-01-31 09:05:03 · 16 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Creationism is ripe with hippocrasy... the simple fact of the matter is that if god exists and has the ability to see the future, then he knows the consequences of said future, therefore, there would be no need to create something and reprimand it later, as it would be an exercise in futility. Thus the whole free will vs. god arguement (highly applicable to christianity). You can have one or the other, not both. Sorry, got sidetracked... the simple answer is that if the universe HAD to have a beginning as creationist claim, then so did god. If god had a beginning, and everything HAS to have a creator (as I've heard repeated often by Christians as proof of god) then what created god? Therefore, god is not all powerful, and there is a force greater, negating said god.
Wow, did Chef Bob even read the question? Gotta love answers that don't address reasoning or use support.
2007-01-31 09:08:25 · answer #1 · answered by Cale Black 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
That is the definition of eternity. Do you accept the concept of eternity ? I believe that the big bang and the creation of the world as described in Genesis are one and the same thing. Having said this, there is no question that the world was created in seven days but, in seven phases which have in themselves taken millions of years each. Genesis was written a very long time ago and concepts have evolved greatly since then. I think the polemic between the Creationists and the Evolutionists is ridiculous; Creation is the process and Evolution is the time element taken to reach the present state. Both are interdependent of one another.
2007-01-31 09:18:34 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Somewhere, some how, you have to throw an infinity. The visible universe is clearly not infinite in both directions of time... at some point, you hit the beginning of the inflationary and fall below the Planck scale, meaning existence itself becomes questionable.
However, this also means that there is still a quantum structure, otherwise it could not BE smaller than the Planck scale.
There is one and so far ONLY one infinity that makes logical sense, consistently, in physics -- the inflaton field.
Here's hoping we figure out how to test that hypothesis.
2007-01-31 09:13:04 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
yet another sturdy portion of believing the universe has continually existed isn't having to have faith it got here from not something. at present, the super Bang concept is the ultimate clarification for the inspiration of the universe and it claims that the universe exploded into existence from a single factor that contained each little thing.
2016-10-16 09:18:03 · answer #4 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I’ve gotten the idea that by the universe having a beginning that it somehow means that the chances of out existing drastically decrease. At least, that’s what I’ve gotten from them.
The big bang is irrelevant as to the existence of god though.
2007-01-31 09:10:15 · answer #5 · answered by A 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
i personally believe that new universes are being created or have been created in the past, and we are just one of them. when you get that high into thinking, about what was there before the universe, you have to pick a side: God, or tedious, time consuming science.
i guess it's easier to think of something with a definitive answer than to create and investigate your own ideas.
you make a very good point!
2007-01-31 09:10:54 · answer #6 · answered by Shellular Kellular 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
That's my way of thinking exactly. If a deity can always exist, why not imagine the Universe always existing too (in some form or another). Seems logical to me.
2007-01-31 09:08:47 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
anything physical from our perspective must have a beginning ... theres somthing else that goes beyond our physical universe ... some place maybe another dimension where the rules of this universe do not apply ...a place we understand as infinite ... where God dwells ... the spiritual ...
2007-01-31 09:10:51 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
What I really want to know is, WHERE did God put the universe? I mean, he had to decide to create it somewhere, so what space was already existing for him to start playing?
2007-01-31 09:10:48 · answer #9 · answered by Phoenix, Wise Guru 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I hear ya man.... But the universe is not magical, and their deity is...so that is how/why he can exist eternally while the universe supposedly requires a creator...
2007-01-31 09:09:45 · answer #10 · answered by YDoncha_Blowme 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋