Psst! There were no Chistian sects yet,
2007-01-31 08:02:18 · 8 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Dear Theooldma: I'm not a scholar, and so my past studies have not been focused on any one particular aspect of Theology, Religion, Spirituality or Mysticism; but, rather, I have been into some - of all of it ! I'm going to delve back into teachings I have looked upon and see if I can put this together properly.
The culture of India goes back approximately 7,000 BC. The religion of Hinduism arose with the belief in Brahman - an impersonal Deity, yet the Causual Force behind life. As an impersonal God, He is cause of life, but mankind remains individual and as an independent being. The goal is to become like Brahma. The term "Atman" is used in Hindu belief to mean Soul.
Around the same period of time, Zoroastrianism was predominant in Iran (Persia). It has corresponding beliefs or tenets and is possibly a spin off of Hinduism .
1,500 BC the Egyptians had their "Book of the Dead." This is interesting in that like the Jews, they see the entire body as going into a "waiting place" for judgement. The Fields of Yalou are where righteous beings live, eternally. But, if the Soul is found defunct, a demon "Ammit" eats it ! I think - the body stays with the individual in this, providing the Soul is not found defunct or guilty, and eaten. They use a word for Soul.
The Jews speak of Sheol around 800 BC, I think, but this, again, is a place where the TOTAL individual goes after death ; the body goes also. There is no separation for the soul from the body in the belief of Sheol - at this period of time. It seems similar to the Age of Socrates. Also, although Moses is mentioned in Genesis, all books with recordings that may have shown his existence were supposedly burned due to the wrath of Pharoah against Moses. We don't really know if he said those words quoted in Genesis.
Later still, around 563 BCE, Siddartha Gautama, became the Buddha and this spiritual philosophy is similar in its traits with Hinduism, also. It is thought of as a religion, today.
In the Matrix of the Buddha, the human self, considered the non-self, is supplanted by the everlasting, sovereign Self called Atman - which is a concept of Soul. This is the heavenly state we all seek to be in. This is our boundless and immanent awakened mind - Soul
About 400 BC, Socrates in a Pagan world in Greece becomes the Grandfather of Higher Thought and Plato, thought to have been his student, is the Father of "New Age" thought or Higher Thought. While they concentrate (Socrates is who I am focused on) on ascending to Wisdom, self-Development, Virtue and the Search for Good, I do not know if Socrates speaks of Soul as WE think of it. In his Pagan world, Hades is a place like Sheol. There are areas for the good and Virtued and areas for the evil in Hades. But, I believe Socrates sees the entire being - body and HIGHER MIND as remaining intact in an afterlife that for Socrates - simply means a purgatory-type situation for some 7 to 10 years, after which the entity is purified enough to return to earth for a new life span. The truly evil mind, beyond redeeming, disappears forever at the bottom of a river they are taken to upon death. They are never seen again.
Finally, Jesus of Nazareth spoke of eternal life and our soul and it was just prior to Christian sects ! If you are looking for an individual, I would say, Jesus of Nazareth. There are some writings likened to each other about him and what he said!
I believe all ideas of Soul contain immortal thinking. The Hindus' belief in Moksha is " liberation from rebirth." These ancient religions/philosophies think of life after life, or reincarnations, strongly. But, there is a point where perfection is learned and then they believe in "ecstatic union" and being part of some Ultimate Reality.
Jesus just points us toward Abba, His and Our Father.
Best regards, Lana
2007-01-31 10:03:48 · answer #1 · answered by Lana S (1) 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Thats an particularly large question! be conscious what God has to declare in His notice the Bible on that rely, its fairly exciting. At Genesis 2:7 it says: "And Jehovah God proceeded to type the guy out of dirt from the floor and to blow into his nostrils the breath of existence, and the guy got here TO BE a residing soul." So did you spot here the way it says that he "grew to become" a soul, no longer "gained" a soul? yet another scripture which provides us furhter incite is Ecclesiastes 7:5 which says: "The residing are huge conscious that they are going to die, yet as for the lifeless, they are huge conscious of no longer something in any respect..." So, the lifeless are no longer huge conscious of something, and that is yet yet another scripture that makes all clean: Ezekiel 18:4, (end of verse 4) which says: The soul that is sinning--it itself will die." This scripture of course states that the soul will die. that is not any longer immortal, because of the fact we do not have a soul, we are a soul. Therefor while we die, our soul dies. in case you have any extra questions, do no longer hesitate to invite !!
2016-11-01 23:49:41 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Immortality of the soul came to the Jews from contact with Greek thought and from the philosphy of Plato.
http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0geurOKYcFFbTEBTR5XNyoA?p=who+came+first+with+the+idea+of+a+immortal+soul&ei=UTF-8&fr=slv8-&x=wrt
In the late second and early third century; the names Tertullian and Origen come up.
Look at heading Immortal Soul in this site below:
http://www.lcg.org/cgi-bin/tw/booklets/tw-bk.cgi?category=Booklets1&item=1104363708
The phrase "Immortal-Soul" is found nowhere in the Bible. Where did the idea of an immortal soul originate?
http://www.ude.net/bible/history.htm
The truth about Immortal Soul(came from paganism); it's not a Christian doctrine! (1Tim.6:15-16)
http://www.lcg.org/cgi-bin/tw/telecast/tw-telecast.cgi?category=Media1&item=1104435466
2007-01-31 14:43:24 · answer #3 · answered by KNOWBIBLE 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Moses
Genesis 3:25
For the body of a man shall be destined to toil unto death, yet his spirit shall live eternal by way of the tree of life.
2007-01-31 08:10:41 · answer #4 · answered by ? 1 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Hindus stated it 3000-5000 years ago. That's my best bet. Or I'd say aliens.
2007-01-31 08:06:34 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Zoroaster.
2007-01-31 08:05:43 · answer #6 · answered by S K 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
psah, as soon as one of us poor deluded hairy monkeys decided he was the friggin' center of the universe and he would never die.
In other words, the moment we developed an ego.
2007-01-31 08:13:52 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Plato?
2007-01-31 08:07:09 · answer #8 · answered by FAUUFDDaa 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋