Pro's What is one justification for Illegal immigration?

Question

I want something that will show how violating American law is justifiable. I want supporting facts. Anti's feel free to comment.



Anyone heard from Minutewoman lately?

Sorry not good enough pfc. I also need supporting facts.

You really let me down Illegal.

Nice Sgreger. I told myself I was going to give BA to a Pro, but you pretty much shut down any argument. Now I'm pretty sure you will be called a racist still.

Almost a nice argument Answer guy, but the opinions pretty much overshadow the supporting facts. I understand your argument, but it is still against the law. No matter how expensive it is to become a citizen. Ever think about why it's that way. I mean if we let every person that wanted to enter the US in, what would become of our country? How many more terrorist attacks would occur? Where would American Pride go? All out the window, just so Pablo, and Maria can have a better life? I don't think our America is worth it. I mean it's bad enough that they litter our nation with their presence, and utter disregard for any of our laws.

Answer 1

The Bible says treat other people how you want to be treated. So if you were an illegal you would want people to be nice and give you a chance.


(Yesterday or the day before she was on here testing Yahoo to see what questions she could get away with. Maybe she got too many violations for being racist.)

Answer 2

I personally don't think that breaking the law in any way is justifiable. I understand where it can get confusing... where do we draw the line. Immigrants (from any country) come into America hoping for a better life. Some are illegal, some not. I don't think that we should send the illegals ones away because first of all-there's too many to be able to find them all and send every single one. Second of all-as long as they aren't accepting medicare, welfare, benefits etc that WE are paying for then I don't think they are a problem. If they are paying their own taxes-which they CAN do even if they are illegal and they are working and minding their own business-who cares if they are here. The only ones that I think are problems are the ones that come to America expecting things. The ones that don't work, get welfare, and take advantage of the system. There are two kinds of illegal immigrants in this country. We shouldn't punish the one's who aren't doing anything wrong except trying their best. What we SHOULD do is stop the ones who ARE receiving medical aid that DONT work. If they did that would be a different story. They are working for the tax money too.

Answer 3

There are several.

One would be a decriminalization argument. That goes something like this. When a law or policy is not enforced, or enforced selectively, it becomes suspect. If the government fails to enforce it for a long enough time, people know that the law can be broken and they are reasonably safe from punishment. Here, we have hundereds of thousands of illegal immigrants and we aren't doing much about it. In fact, many of our corporations rely on the cheap labor. Corporations have the demand and there are people willing to provide the supply.

The above was a legal argument. The following is a moral argument.

Most illegal immigrants come because they want to make a better life for themselves or their family. They dont have much of an education, but they realize that if they can make it to our country they will have better food, water, shelter and more money. In that respect, it makes them quite logical to want to come here immediately. Everyone likes to point the finger and say, "why don't they just go through the proper channels?" While that would be ideal, it isn't even factoring into their decision making process. Going through the proper channels is expensive and complicated. A person who can't speak english and simply wants to do minimum wage manual labor won't have much luck with legally immigranting. So they do what's best for their families. If you were in their shoes, you would likely do the same. I know I would.

Answer 4

There is no justification for breaking the law. They have invaded our country in a time of war, by the thousands!
I agree they are people too but we just dont have the infrastructure to support them.

They come here, get our hospitals shut down by going to the ER for things as small as a cold because they have no health insurance, they have anchor babies, some pay taxes but many dont, they take jobs away from americans (also do a lot we dont want to but still doesnt justify taking even 1 job an american could be doing), they sell drugs and create crime (Not because they are mexican but because they come in usually at a poverty level income and then densely populate in small areas to create ghettos, which spawns crome regardless of race).

I mean i love mexican peoplem, I am puerto rican, I have lots of friends from many different cultures. But for these liberals to be fighting for the rights of someone invading the country ina time of war is treason.

Remember the 2 border patrol agents who are in jail for shooting a drug dealer who was coming into this country with drugs in the leg? The government gave them 10 years (because border patrol is not legally allowed to stop anyone coming in illegaly if that makes any sense, or discharge a weapon) and they even granted the drug dealer immunity to come back into the us whenever he wants if he wants to get his wound fixed. WE ARE FAVORING MEXICAN DRUG CARTELS OVER AMERICAN BORDER PATROL AGENTS. Come on now, id like to hear anyone on this thread claim that all the things I have listed are somehow alleviated by the "But they're people too, america was buit on immegrants" rebuttle.

Answer 5

Lawlessness should never be accepted. But i agree that mexicans are being used for cheaper labor so companies can make more profits. Outsourcing of jobs has been the other alternative to cheap mexican labor. don't try playing the race card, it ain't workin!

Answer 6

I couldn't have said it better than Answer Guy. He deserves a star and Best Answer, if you have the cojones to give it to him instead of one of your little anti buddies.

I'm not sure what happened to Minutewoman. She may be at the national KKK convention or working on the next Aryan Nation march through a black nieghborhood.

Answer 7

Libertarians believe in solving issues with as little governmental intervention as possible. I'm for open borders. We also intend on abolishing welfare, to insure a working force. I don't care if your against it or not. The problem with republicans is that they will bomb for liberty, but god forbid someone tries to find liberty through self reliance. As far as people not paying taxes, I applaud them and don't care if you call me anti-American or whatever you want to stereotype me as. But let me ask you some questions. Why are you so worried about the immigration in Mexico, but not in Canada? Is it because they speak English? What is stopping a terrorist from going through legally, those who hijacked the planes in 9/11 had full documentation. Oh yeah, as for workers rights, why won't you compete. If I owned a business, I'm going to get the ones I believe are going to do the best job at the cheapest price. Poor legal americans. Give me a break. You complain, but won't take a directive approach to your problems, you have to whine to your govt thinking they're gonna do it for you. Guess what, borders are still open, and it looks like that won't change anytime soon. So start growing some balls and take a directive action. Do some research and find those who arn't using illegals, use property at the borders to keep them out. Statists always go to the govt with their problems and never do anything themselves.

Answer 8

There IS no justification for breaking our laws by SNEAKING into the country illegally!!!!

They try to make EXCUSES for their friends/relatives committing a crime, but that's ALL they are, just excuses!!!!!

Answer 9

There is no justification for breaking ANY law, including our immigration laws. No matter how you paint it, a dead horse is still a dead horse.

Answer 10

Well with the US govt sending our two border patrol guys to prison for nabbing a dope smuggler with pounds of pot, that might be incentive. BTW if someone gets caught with that pot in US they could get life on their first offence. We should be letting govt know we are watching how they vote, there is a website that details how our reps(?) vote.

Answer 11

the rule of law only applies to citizens