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people Lucifer was a man a Babylonian king not angel.

Isa 14:4 That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!

Isa 14:12How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! [how] art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, [and] consider thee, [saying, Is] this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

it is clear that Isiah is talking about the fall of the Babylonian empire to the Persians. and it has been said that when nebakanezer took Israel he bragged to them that he would sit on their gods throne. i don't know where this came from that it was talking about Satan but it is clear that this is a man any one that would like to debate this with me is free to email me

2007-01-31 05:25:38 · 7 answers · asked by ryan s 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

and Satan the beast is not thrown out of heaven till rev Why would god need to throw him out twice?

2007-01-31 05:26:44 · update #1

Wahnote for one Luke wrote acts not Paul. lol for 2 the author of rev was not john the apostle it was a different john all together. and the bible does from a time line Issiah was a prophet during the time that Israel was a captive of Babylon so i don't know where u get he is talking before time. and rev is talking of the end of time not before lol

2007-01-31 08:28:49 · update #2

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You are right. It's a misinterpretation. He was talking about the king of Babylon. Glad to see someone else thinks that, too.

2007-01-31 06:05:42 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

God tells us who believe:
1 Peter 5:8
Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.

Satan is the prince of the air right now. He is not in heaven- He was cast out long ago. And did it ever occur to you that what Isiaiah is saying is an analogy of what the King of Babylon is? That Babylon is being run by the devil- satan has overcome Babylon. You forget that there is a lot of symbolism in the Bible. Lots of analogies too.

2007-01-31 13:39:08 · answer #2 · answered by Mandolyn Monkey Munch 6 · 0 0

It is clear that you misunderstood the Bible terribly.

Basic logic: Why the book of John came after Book of Acts and Book of Roman? Paul wrote Acts and Romans, Wasn't John came before Paul?

How the Bible complied together, does not mean the timeline is what you assume.

Isaiah and John , they both were telling a time before the world was form. Hope this clear things up a little.

2007-01-31 15:40:27 · answer #3 · answered by Wahnote 5 · 0 0

For the same reason that christians believe that Jesus was the savior, Muslims believe that Mohammed was a prophet, Buddhists believe that Siddhartha was enlightened, Hindu's believe that Krisna is an avatar, and Mormons believe that Joseph Smith really spoke to an Angel. They were taught those fairy-tales.

2007-01-31 13:36:18 · answer #4 · answered by mlurtsema 1 · 0 0

~~~ryan ,,,, "Lucifer" is a term which predates christianity by hundreds of years and literally means "Morning Star"(in ancient Sumerian?) and refers to Venus rising in the east. Christian editors and revisionists gave it a new meaning when they invented Satan and Hell.(,,,the 'worshipping' of a "Morning Star" would have been considered a False Idol, therefore it had to be 'demonized'). Now re-read the scripture with this understanding and it makes perfect sense in the context of the restructuring, ie: evolution of The Christian Motif.

2007-01-31 13:45:12 · answer #5 · answered by Sensei TeAloha 4 · 1 0

Christians THINK? Since when?

2007-01-31 13:30:42 · answer #6 · answered by Irreverend 6 · 0 2

I disagree with you.

2007-01-31 13:32:21 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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