why are only atheists allowed to use their democratic freedoms?

Question

when atheists mock christians, they're using (or abusing???) they're freedoms and its apparently ok to do so,
but when christians want to read their bibles in highschools or call atheists retards (some of them totally are), they're almost sued...
anything wrong with that picture? where are the christian freedoms?

Answer 1

Because it's wrong to call people retards. Not only are you insulting the atheists by calling them that word, but you are also insulting people with mental retardation.

Answer 2

Woah, hold it. You're comparing mocking with reading a bible in school. If you asked why Atheists can mock Christians, but Christians can't mock Atheists, you'd have an argument.
You're right, there are some Atheist retards, but there is a far greater proportain of superstitious believers who are retarded. It is well known that Atheists on average are much more intelligent than believers.
Where are the Christian freedoms ? All believers and non-believers have exactly the same rights and freedoms.

Answer 3

Wow, stunning.

Ok, first point. It is perfectly legal to read bibles in public schools, provided that it is not during classroom time, and it is not disruptive to other students. So, for example, students can read bibles at lunch, during silent reading/study hall, in between classes, pretty much at any time that a teacher is not in the front of the room teaching. Conversely, students aren't allowed to read bibles (or any other non-class related materials including but not limited to comic books, novels, short stories, etc.) while a class is in session, or where it would be disruptive (i.e. starting a large impromptu revival in a hallway or classroom). I don't think that's unreasonable. Also, teachers are prohibited from advocating their religious beliefs while they are acting in their official capacity. So, a teacher couldn't read the bible to her class, but they could sponsor an after school christian club, and read their bible at any time that they weren't teaching class. I hope that clears some things up.

Moving on to mocking people. Schools may have guidelines about such things, but outside of schools, anyone is free to mock anyone. The constitution guarantees everyone the right to hold any opinion they like and express that opinion. You are free to mock atheists, just like it is completely legal for me to mock christians, or anyone else for that matter. Private citizens can say whatever they like (unless it is on a federally licensed radio or television station, though I personally don't agree that the FCC should be alowed to censor radio and television). You're completely wrong on this point.

So, you believe that christians in this country are having their freedoms curtailed? Remember that this country has a population that is overwhelmingly christian. Remember that religious institutions are not only allowed to flurish, but are actually subsidized by the government through tax exemptions and faith based initiatives. Your assertion that christians are persecuted is completely laughable. You don't know the meaning of the word. There are groups in this country that experience persecution, intolerance and discrimination like you've never experienced, and most of it comes from guess who? It's christians who constantly try to sue and pass laws that would force their beliefs on others. It's christians who want to tell people what they can do with their own bodies, who they can marry, who they can have sex with, even what they can watch on TV. Are we just supposed to lie down and let you? When a non-christin sues to stop you from doing these things, it is not to oppress you, but to keep YOU from oppressing US.

Is this that hard for you to understand? Really?

Answer 4

Yeah. Like all the Christian churches that want to pay taxes but the government atheists won't let them.

As far as high schools, you can read your bible anywhere an atheist can read his Playboy. Actually more places since you Christians are hung up on naked people.

I know of no laws which do not allow you to call atheists "retards" although some schools may not permit such language in general and an atheist calling you retards "Christians" (or should that be you Christians "retards") would get in trouble as well.

Answer 5

We're not the ones that cry "persecution" if someone disagrees with us, or finds our position laughable. No one is trying to stop school kids from reading the Bible in schoolyards, or even having extracurricular clubs. Your beliefs only become a problem when you want them taught in public schools as science, want your religious dogma influencing the laws of the nation, and protest information that goes against your religion being placed on public land. Do you see the difference? I really don't care what you say about me or my beliefs...

Answer 6

I am an atheist, but I would never sue you or start crying if Christians (or other believers) started talking about their beliefs.
I'm a big girl... if you respect my beliefs, I will not bother you about yours... but don't forget--atheists make up a tiny, tiny percentage of the people in America. So I think it is pretty cool to stand up to millions of people, strong in one's beliefs!

About religious study etc. in highschools? Well, are we talking about public high schools? In that case, a Christian would have every right to read his bible quietly in home room, or discuss religion with the people sitting near him. But the school should not openly broadcast Christianity as its 'official faith'! There should be no announcements over the loudspeaker about "our lord Jesus Christ," for example... Jesus Christ is NOT the lord for any Jewish or atheistic students, to name just two groups!

Answer 7

From what I've seen everybody here gets mocked - don't take it so seriously it's just for fun. Anyway I do think you should be able to read your bible in school and I'm an atheist.

Answer 8

How about the Xians who sued a school because the principle told a student he couldn't wear a shirt that featured hate filled slogans aimed at gays. The grounds was that the school was infringing on his religious freedom as a Xian.

Stop pretending you're being persecuted and get a life.

Answer 9

reading the bible in a public school violates the concept of separation of church and state.

How would you feel if someone was reading the Qur'an at your child's high school?

Religion is fine as long as it stays where it belongs in church or at a PRIVATE school, NOT at a public school.

Also why does it seem that MOST Christians feel the need to force their beliefs onto others? Example Jesus Camp.

Answer 10

You have all the freedom possible to read your Bibles anywhere that it does not interfere with state business.

Would you be upset if your child was reading a comic book during school? To we atheists, there is no difference : both are fictional stories, except I don't know of any belief systems or wars that were declared in the name of Superman.

Answer 11

It's not xians reading their bibles in schools that are a problem. As a matter of fact Bible Study clubs on school property are quite common in California. It's when they try to take away my son's Havamal, Voluspa and his Eddas and force him to read the bible that it becomes a problem. Or when they try to teach their version of creationism in science class but refuse to teach proper pastry making techniques in autoshop. Because you know pastry and manifolds make about as much sense together as any god in a science class would.

Just to be fair and spare you your imaginary oppression, let me know when that apple pie is done baking up nice and flaky on the manifold of a DeThomaso Pantera in the nearest high school autoshop class and I'll pass out the bibles in science class myself.

~Morg~