We have had a smoking ban in Scotland and Ireland for some time now and I believe our nearest neighbours will soon implement one too. Good.
But I found out an interesting thing recently. I visit my local pub every couple of weeks and recently noticed that the "regulars" didn't seem to arrive until much later- shortly before closing time, in fact.
On making enquiries I was intrigued to find that they are arriving late so they can participate in the "lock-in". This is after closing time, when the bar is supposedly shut to the public. Ostensibly the owner can then decide who gets to participate in the "lock in" and- here's the interesting bit- they all stand at the bar and smoke away merrily on their cigarettes. The owner is a smoker himself and heartily approves of this behaviour.
What's the legality of this situation, and is any law being broken by it?
2007-01-31 03:49:42 · 13 answers · asked by Not Ecky Boy 6 in Politics & Government ➔ Law Enforcement & Police
Smoke drink get plastered - thats Yeso.
2007-01-31 14:51:11 · answer #1 · answered by unavailable 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
They are of course breaking the law by drinking out of hours.Whilst they are buying and drinking, the no smoking law would, I should think ,stand as the pub is in effect still in operation although illegally.I think the police would be more interested in the licensing infringement than the smoking.If they are merely the guests of a generous land lord then the ban is unlikely to be appropriate as they would merely be regarded as guests in his property.---This man is walking a very thin line.The policing of the licensing laws (around her at least) is being tightened up following the reforms.Hell the pubs here are open till 2 o'clock----I thought lock ins were the things of history books now.Of course on reflection you are in Scotland so it may be slightly different.
2007-01-31 04:12:53 · answer #2 · answered by Xtine 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
As far as I know 'lock-ins' are illegal anyway, so they would be breaking at least one law, if not two. However, if the landlord is not taking money (highly unlikely) then it is considered a private party, and so legal. Not sure where that sits with the smoking though, as they are still smoking in a 'public place' albeit one that is closed. Hmm, interesting question. Mainly though, the landlord is undoubtedly taking money after licenced hours and so is breaking the law by doing that. I think.
2007-01-31 04:02:11 · answer #3 · answered by peggy*moo 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Good! Wheres this pub? My God! There is always one isn't there. You will never be satisfied will you?? Why don't you find something interesting to do instead of whining about and spying on your neighbours (Locals) I know! Go for a spin in your "4 Wheel drive" and run over a couple off badgers or something...Since you like so very much to "Badger"...Get a grip!!
AM
2007-01-31 04:19:36 · answer #4 · answered by Antman 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Not sure if any law is being broken considering I live in the USA. But don't you think it's fair to mind your own business? These people smoke because it's their business. How would you like it if someone butted into your business? They aren't hurting or affecting your life in any way. So if you wnat to be a good person, you will stop snooping around in other people's business. I'm saying this in a good way, so don't get upset.
2007-01-31 03:59:34 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 1⤋
first of all he cant sell drinks after time legally, therefore he would have to say it was a private party, At a private party the law on smoking is not in force, if not open to the public
2007-01-31 04:13:26 · answer #6 · answered by cookie 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I think it is stupid in a major way, to ban smoking in bars at all!
they passed a smoking ban here in Las Vegas for restaraunts and bars that serve food, they say they wanted it this way to protect the children.. if some idiot is going to take their kid into a bar, they probably smoke arround the kid at hime right? so wtf is the difference. the non smokers want to be able to go where the smokers go, which is fine, but don't try to implement your rules on my life!
and why is this in the "Law Enforcement/Police" catagory, shouldn't it be in "Law and Ethics" or something like that??
2007-01-31 04:00:44 · answer #7 · answered by Fluffington Cuddlebutts 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Ashtrays come out when a lock in commences.
2007-01-31 04:01:23 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
I think that if you are paying for the drinks, it is still regarded as a public premise and there fore the law would still prevail
2007-01-31 03:56:50 · answer #9 · answered by Boscombe 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Nah mate, you can join in with all the other polluters and breathe in all their crap and they can breathe in yours, Happy puffing, you're nearer the wooden overcoat than you think!!!!!!!
2007-01-31 04:07:49 · answer #10 · answered by Peter R 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋