For the Atheist. Since you do not believe in God/ID, where do you "believe" the universe came from?

Question

Where did the Universe come from? Where did the speck of matter come from that was the big bang? Where did life come from if a law of science is no spontaneous generation? How did the laws (gravity, thermodynamics, conservations, matter, etc.) come into existence?

and for those who say God or religion is stupid...
Both atheism and Christianity are beliefs, faiths, religions. You must have great faith and/or ignorance to believe either God created everything or nothing came into existance somehow. And science doesn't support either (how the universe came to be) i cant explain God and athiests cant explain Not God. I believe in God. Call me stupid for believing in Him, I'll call you retarded for believing in nothing.

and trust me, I've heard both sides aplenty. I've done my research. I only pity you poor souls. I'm not gonna try to convert you, you've all fallen on your own.

Answer 1

1) Simply because I am an atheist doesn't mean I have this answer, or even a theory. I simply don't accept the theistic explanation.

2) Having this answer (if it were possible, which it's not) would not change my life, or anyone else's life, one iota.

3) The origin of the physics which govern the local universe is an intriguing question, but the answer is not necessary for us to progress technologically. We need only understand HOW they work.

Ultimately, I believe we are not learned enough as a species to answer this question. Possibly, we are not EVOLVED enough yet.

As a small hungry infant cannot comprehend the vast food industry that is responsible for creating its baby food, so too can we hungry humans not yet comprehend the mechanism responsible for our existence. As the infant grows, learns and matures, it eventually is able to comprehend that food does not come from magic, but from seeds, sunlight, and water. One day, hopefully, we will also be able to understand that the answers to your questions do not come from magic (god) but from some rational, comprehensibly explanation.

Answer 2

The nature of the universe immediately prior to the Big Bang prevents us from knowing more about its origins. All the matter in the universe was, at that point, in such a dense form that nothing, not even light, could escape it. So nothing that happened before the Big Bang could have any effect on what happened (and will happen) after the Big Bang. Technically this does mean that there is a possibility that the Big Bang was caused by a god, but such a god would then have no effect on or control of the universe after the Big Bang, so their existence is not only unknowable but also completely unimportant.

The first life was created in a process called abiogenesis. It wasn't 'spontaneous', it happened over a very long period of time (probably many millions of years) and involved the gradual change from inorganic matter to organic matter to self-replicating organic matter and finally to simple forms of life.

Answer 3

Study the big bang it's educated speculation but who cares where or how it developed as long as we don't make up myths to explain what we might not fully yet understand. Knowledge unlike religious fantasies doesn't occur overnight. According to Einstein it will be a cycle of changes as conservation of matter and energy are still god in the world of science .time life put out a time line of eternity in scientific speculative terms and the idea of black holes devouring the matter of the universe only to explode spitting out a new cycle of matter is most interesting for details you must search on your own the theories are out there. As the religious believe god always was maybe the cycle of the universe always has been .It's possible and more likely than a myth.

Answer 4

im sooooo glad you put some marks around the word 'believe', but quotation marks were wrong both grammatically and actually. An athiest would never use 'believe' to justify their position in a discussion/argument.

Athiests would all share the view that it was not God/Gods, so that is your answer here in this forum. If you want to know the scientific perspective, better to put your question in a forum discussion where some educated theoretical physicist can see it rather than here. Yes, most physicists are athiests, but they would probably take the view that any discussion of God is irrelevant to understanding the origins of the universe.

What that is, i dont know, im not a physicist. Fact is, none of them probably knows either. Actually, there is a huge chance that no human will ever know. That doesn't mean God did it. It mean we might never have a chance to know as it happened so long ago, probably in such a bizarre way that the human mind could not understand the possibilities of what happened.

Answer 5

What you are looking for is an explanation/theory of the quantum universe....which is the domain of particle physics.
The Big Bang, and subsequent inflationary force(s) are not yet explained. Their actions are actually fairly well known, and there is verification of these theories going back decades.
These scientists aren't just people in a room somewhere throwing out wild ideas in an attempt to delude people. Their only agenda is to explain things via observations (as far as possible) or secondary data when direct observation is not possible.
You really should take the time to read up on some of this. There are many, many good websites that make it undertandable for even a thick-headed person like me.

Answer 6

Proponents of string theory, and super-string theory are currently looking for information concerning the pre-big bang time. One of the most credible lines of investigation is:

That the universe, after undergoing eons of expansion, will undergo an equal period of contraction. This will inevitably lead to a "big crunch" type of event, until the pressure results in another big bang. This theory holds that this is a perpetual phenomenon. Remember the sheer amounts of time and space being talked about here.

Life itself is the result of abiogenesis. It was not spontaneous, and needed to have millions of conditions met. It took place at one of the most tumultuous periods in the earth's formation.

The laws of nature and the universe came into existence when the universe itself was created, via the Big Bang.

Answer 7

If you don't have any qualms with allowing god the luxury of having no beginning, why not the universe, in some form or another?

Modern theories posited by several theoretical physicists, such as Stephen Hawking, suggest a concept of time beyond the linear, one-dimensional model, where the geometry of time may, in fact, be more like a 2-dimensional surface on a sphere, where there is no actual beginning or end.

Answer 8

Where the universe came from is, given the state of research at the moment, a matter of speculation. Bear in mind that not knowing where the universe came from does not necessarily compel people to believe in God.

Answer 9

The scientific principle disproving spontaneous generation never said it can't happen, just that it does not occur constantly. As for the origin of the universe, scientists (not atheists) know that they have not reached the answer, yet. Of course, I feel sorry for you. You worship a god that is all the holes in your knowledge.

Answer 10

Who cares? Why ask questions about the past. You can't change it, you can't go back, you can't make it better or worse. Why is it that Christians can't focus on the present, never focused on this moment, always praying to a false god to make things better instead of improving things themselves. Stop praying to god to save starving children and feed a child for example. Christianity is a form of welfare for the minds of people who refuse to accept the responsibilities of humanity. A fairy-tale for a bunch of children who are to busy worrying about themselves, when they could be helping others. It is nothing more than a bunch of lazy spiritually dead hypocrites looking for a hand out from a false entity. Live for the moment you are in. Forget the past, it is gone. Worry about the future when you get to it. Help yourself and others, that is where your salvation lies.