Small but Fierce nailed it.
Exactly what I was thinking.
Daniel 9 tells precisely when Messiah would be here.
The divine commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem 454 B.C.
(CB) from the going forth, &c.: i.e. in the twentieth year of Artaxerxes (= the great king: i.e. Astyages), 454 B.C.
(CB) commandment = word. Hebrew dabar. Referring to the Divine word rather than to a royal decree.
(CB) Jerusalem. Not the Temple (as in Ezra), but the city (as in Nehemiah), which was the subject of Daniel’s prayer, and therefore the answer to it.
Messiah the Prince is Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior. NOTE: the upper case “P” of Prince.
(CB) seven weeks = forty-nine years (454-405 B.C.).
(CB) threescore and two weeks = 434 years (405 B.C. – A.D. 29) : the two together being 49 + 434 = 483 years; leaving seven years to make up the full 490 years of Dan.9:24.
Wayne Murray
2007-01-30 13:19:20
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answered by Anonymous
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There are NO prophecies stating that the messiah would be God born as a baby, have 12 followers, be persecuted, nailed to a cross, buried, and then come back to life, promising to return at some indefinite time thousands of years later, before floating off to the sky like a hot air balloon. Christians got those ideas, not from Judaism, but from pagan religions, most notably the religion of Mithra, which was popular in the early centuries C.E. and also featured a dying-resurrecting son of God. Christians later then went through the Tanach, looking for any scriptures that they thought might be made to fit their preconceived notions of their pagan messiah, and applied them to Jesus. It's exactly the same as when there's some kind of disaster or terrorist attack, and people go through Nostradamus' writings searching for something that seems to vaguely fit, and then claiming it was an accurate prophecy.
2007-01-30 21:30:25
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answered by Antique Silver Buttons 5
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Old Testament scriptures in Genesis 49:10. "The scepter shall not depart Judah, nor a lawgiver between his feet until Shiloh come, and unto to Him shall the gathering of the people be." Proving that in all of their captivities to other nations.
The Hebrews were always allowed to practice their laws from Moses, including that of capital punishment, until Rome's oppressive rule. He continued to say that Annas the High Priest of Israel cried out "Behold, the scepter has departed from Judah and Messiah has not come."
This was an arguement that a preacher used to convert a Jewish Rabbi to christianity
2007-01-30 21:21:39
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answered by Anonymous
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Only from the most prophetic book in the entire OT even the entire Bible... funny how you come across like you know it all but didn't know that...
Daniel 9:25
Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the MESSIAH the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
Daniel 9:24-26 (in Context) Daniel 9 (Whole Chapter)
Daniel 9:26
And after threescore and two weeks shall MESSIAH be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
Daniel 9:25-27 (in Context) Daniel 9 (Whole Chapter)
2007-01-30 21:18:04
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answered by Anonymous
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Daniel 9 : 24-26....Daniel prophecied about the timing of the coming Messiah...what will take place and when he will be 'cut off' , and the ensuing destruction of Jerusalem....
Also that he will make reconciliation for the sins of the people.
2007-01-30 21:21:16
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answered by Anonymous
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The Seventy "Sevens"
20 While I was speaking and praying, confessing my sin and the sin of my people Israel and making my request to the LORD my God for his holy hill- 21 while I was still in prayer, Gabriel, the man I had seen in the earlier vision, came to me in swift flight about the time of the evening sacrifice. 22 He instructed me and said to me, "Daniel, I have now come to give you insight and understanding. 23 As soon as you began to pray, an answer was given, which I have come to tell you, for you are highly esteemed. Therefore, consider the message and understand the vision:
24 "Seventy 'sevens' [c] are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish [d] transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy. [e]
25 "Know and understand this: From the issuing of the decree [f] to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, [g] the ruler, comes, there will be seven 'sevens,' and sixty-two 'sevens.' It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble. 26 After the sixty-two 'sevens,' the Anointed One will be cut off and will have nothing. [h] The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed. 27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' [i] In the middle of the 'seven' [j] he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him. [k] " [l]
Daniel chapter 9 NLT
2007-01-30 21:22:02
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answered by ? 6
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Isaiah 19:20
It will be a sign and a witness to the LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt. When they cry to the LORD because of oppressors, he will send them a savior and defender, and deliver them.
-There is much more reference, but I would need some time to look them up- especially about the High Priest Melchizadek.
2007-01-30 21:33:56
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answered by Mandolyn Monkey Munch 6
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And Jesus returned to Galilee in the power of the Spirit, and news about Him spread through all the surrounding district. And He began teaching in their synagogues and was praised by all. And He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up; and as was His custom, He entered the synagogue on the Sabbath, and stood up to read. And the book of the prophet Isaiah was handed to Him. And He opened the book and found the place where it was written, "THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS UPON ME, BECAUSE HE ANOINTED ME TO PREACH THE GOSPEL TO THE POOR. HE HAS SENT ME TO PROCLAIM RELEASE TO THE CAPTIVES, AND RECOVERY OF SIGHT TO THE BLIND, TO SET FREE THOSE WHO ARE OPPRESSED, TO PROCLAIM THE FAVORABLE YEAR OF THE LORD." And He closed the book, gave it back to the attendant and sat down; and the eyes of all in the synagogue were fixed on Him. And He began to say to them, "Today this Scripture has been fulfilled in your hearing."
(Luk 4:14-21)
2007-01-30 21:29:16
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answered by Kel 2
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It sounds like your just wanting some one to agree with you not wanting Jesus as the lord of our lives like you watched the Divinche code or some thing. But Ill let you in on some thing but you got to read it for your self, its in the book of Isaiah so crak it open and get to reading and you'll find it in there.
2007-01-31 06:17:08
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answered by aeirroldavis 1
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david spoke of him often in the psalms ... reffering to Him: "thy throne oh God is forever" ... ur view is a Hebrew view of the "meshiach" and it is defined as follows .... The word "mashiach" does not mean "savior". The notion of an innocent, semi-divine (let alone fully divine) human being who will sacrifice himself to save us from the consequences of our own sins is a purely Christian concept that has no basis in normal Jewish thought, though it seems to have been invented or adopted by Jewish apostates in the early Church. Unfortunately, this Christian concept has become so deeply ingrained in the English word "messiah" that this English word should probably no longer be used to refer to the Jewish concept.
2007-01-30 21:20:37
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answered by Anonymous
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