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I would like to see the basis of your proof that there is no God.

2007-01-30 07:39:16 · 52 answers · asked by lakeroadcoc 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

52 answers

I think they just have faith that there isn't.

"Faith" - hmmm. Where have I heard that word before?
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2007-01-30 07:43:22 · answer #1 · answered by abetterfate 7 · 6 6

Well I am an Agnostic but I'd like to answer anyway...

Nobody, atheist, theist, agnostic etc can prove there is no god with any solid empirical evidence and furthermore nobody will be able to collect empirical evidence unless or until our technology and understanding of the universe advances. The same holds true for proving that there is a god.

However atheists, theists, agnostics etc can all hold their own assumptions, hypotheses, beliefs, faith about the existence/non-existence of god/s etc... based on their life experiences, knowledge and study.

There is no "basis of proof" as you put it that proves there is no god... but there does exist a basis of knowledge, understanding, logic, rationality and common sense that makes the possibility of there being a god seem quite unlikely to those who ascribe to such an outlook on life. I am one of those people who bases my life and my assumptions/beliefs on such logic, knowledge and rationality... and while there is no empirical evidence or undeniable proof that god does not exist, neither is there any such proof that god does exist.... However the amount of knowledge that suggests god does not exist far outweighs that which suggests otherwise. When you look at everything with a logical mind that has a basis of knowledge sufficient enough to reach a conclusion, the philosophical mind will always clearly hypothesize that there is no god.

2007-01-30 08:02:13 · answer #2 · answered by Kelly + Eternal Universal Energy 7 · 1 0

Okay. First, God is defined as the greatest and best of all that is. The greatest and best, and we take this to be a sentient being since being sentient is so much better than being non-sentient. Reasoning is better than unreasoning.

So, if this being is so great, then where is it? Isn't being known better than being unknown? And why invent tapeworms? Why would a superior God create an inferior existence?

Well, a superior creator would not create such a miserable existence. Thus, no superior creator. No God. And don't give me that, "God wanted to give us Free Will and challenge us to choose Good over Evil." Crud, because a superior being wouldn't need to do that. Oh, and the "mysterious ways" bit? It's a good U2 song, but a truly superior being would be able to have us all understand. There wouldn't be a conflict between Good and Evil unless God engineered it Himself. A smarmy thing to do, and not worthy of a superior being.

Either we turn God into a rather sneaky, dirty bastard or we admit that there is no God.

2007-01-30 07:49:52 · answer #3 · answered by Finish Reading Ugly Rennaissance 4 · 2 0

First, you have to define the term "God." The problem with most theists is that this term is a moving target.

In addition, because there is no evidence either for or against the existence of God, you cannot use deductive logic (a+b=c; therefore c-b=a). You can only reach a conclusion by inductive reasoning using the balance of evidence (90% of A is also B; C is B, so the chances are 90% that C is also A).

I will assert (and others may shoot this down) that the only RELEVANT definition of God states that he intervenes to circumvent natural laws.

If God circumvents natural laws, then it is impossible to understand natural laws. All scientific findings would have to include the stipulation, "it is also possible that these results are an act of God, a miracle, thereby making our research meaningless."

However, since we have been able to expand our knowledge of natural laws (evidenced by every appliance in your kitchen), the scientific method works in this discovery. And the likely conclusion is that God, at least the intervening kind, does not exist.

Additionally, if God is defined as all loving, all powerful, and all knowing, then it is impossible to explain suffering. Either God is not all loving (he acts sadistically), not all powerful (he cannot prevent suffering), or not all knowing (he created suffering by mistake because he didn't know the consequences of his actions).

If God is less than these and/or does not intervene in our existence, then he is either non-existent or irrelevant. The classic argument is that I cannot prove that a china teapot is orbiting the sun directly across from the earth's orbit. But while I cannot prove this is not true, the evidence against it is compelling.

The evidence against God is equally compelling, and while it is not possible to prove beyond any doubt, it makes more sense to live your life as if there were not God.

It is more compelling to me that humans have invented God to reflect the anxiety about death and suffering and the thoughts of the ruling powers in a particular time. Because humans are always looking for reasons, when none are found, it was the natural inclination to declare the cause to be "God" (or gods). As the faith grew, miracles and laws have been ascribed to this Divinity, and an orthodoxy grows up around it.

Successful religions over the long run also are accompanied by some level of economic well-being to the populace. Unsuccessful ones are seen as false because they don't lead to improved lives.

Now it seems unhelpful to believe in such superstition. The only matters that aid in our ongoing well being are work, location, health, sustenance, and pure, blind luck.

So no, I don't believe God exists. And you know what? It's okay if you do believe God exists

2007-01-30 07:44:02 · answer #4 · answered by NHBaritone 7 · 6 5

Proofs are not existed to prove a negative

2007-01-30 07:47:37 · answer #5 · answered by FAUUFDDaa 5 · 1 0

No, I can no more prove it than you can prove that there is a god.

On the other hand, I would assert that, based upon available evidence, there is no need for a god. Life, the universe, and everything can be explained without resorting to a supernatural being.

2007-01-30 07:46:46 · answer #6 · answered by Dave P 7 · 2 0

I would kindly dispense to you the proof there is no god... as soon as you dispense to me the proof invisible pink unicorns which bypass the laws of physics don't exist. on the side, tell me why santa doesn't exist too. or flying spaghetti monsters and the chocolate golem under the london bridge.

2007-01-30 19:17:24 · answer #7 · answered by Derek Ikawa 2 · 0 0

There is no evidence that there is one. It isn't rational or reasonable to believe in things without any evidence to back it up. You would be stuck with hundreds of thousands of gods and everything else that human imagination.

Not believing in god, is the same as not believing in Odin, Zeus, Ra, Hera, The Great Spirit, and all the others.

2007-01-30 07:45:30 · answer #8 · answered by Alex 6 · 3 0

It is your claim that this god exists, the burden of proof lies with you.

Can you prove there is no flying spaghetti monster, invisible pink unicorn, or teakettle in orbit between Earth and Mars?

Rediculous to require you to prove my claim false, isn't it?

2007-02-02 11:45:40 · answer #9 · answered by Jay 3 · 0 0

I have none. I'm just intellectually honest enough to call my belief in no God a BELIEF and not fact.

In logic, one proves existence from available objective evidence. There is no available, objective evidence of a God's existence. I therefore BELIEVE, in the absence of available, objective evidence, that no God exists.

2007-01-30 07:45:33 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

I would like to see the basis of your proof that there IS a God.

I will believe in him if he can proove he exists. Until then, i look to the physical facts.

2007-01-30 07:45:51 · answer #11 · answered by spacer9182 2 · 3 0

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