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Why does no one ever talk about this? Does this mean only 144,000 will be given eternal life with Christ?

2007-01-30 05:08:46 · 12 answers · asked by amy b 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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During the time of the great tribulation, 144,000 virgin jewish males will be saved, and they will in turn, go out and evangelize the world.

There will be many that are saved during that time. But it will start with the 144,000 and end up with the 2 witnesses.

2007-01-30 05:17:42 · answer #1 · answered by Christmas Light Guy 7 · 0 2

I agree with Papa G. In addition to what he said:

Why would natural Jews have a heavenly inheritance with Jesus. When they do not even believe in him? They are still waiting for the Messiah. When the Jews in Jesus time rejected him, Jehovah rejected them and they were no longer his people.
Matt. 23:37-39 says "Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the killer of the prophets and stoner of those sent forth to her, how often I wanted to gather her children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks together under her wings! But you people did not want it. Look! Your house is abandoned to you. For I say to you, You will by no means see me from henceforth until you say, "Blessed is he that comes in Jehovah's name!"

There is now a "heavenly Jerusalem" made up of peoples from all nations. Heb. 12: 22 & 23

The 144,000 are the joint heirs with Christ. They will rule as kings and priest over the earth. They have been bought from among mankind, they follow the lamb no matter where he goes. They sing a new song that no one can master but the 144,000, they are without blemish. Rev. 14 1-5;

There will also be a great crowd of meek who will inherit the earth and live forever upon it.
Rev 7: 9 & 10; Ps 37:10 & 11

2007-01-30 06:23:05 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The Greek word, which many translate as "first-fruits", was aparchê. It really had the meaning "the beginning of a sacrifice", "the firstlings for sacrifice", "the first-fruits".

Revelation 14:4 which shows that the 144,000 are the "first-fruits” or “virgins” worthy of sacrifice.

If the 144,000 would be physically racial Israelites, then what happened to the saints who came from the other nations? Were they not a part of the "first-fruits"?

(Revelation 7:9) – “After this I looked, and there was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and languages.”

Since the Jews rejected Jesus and his teachings, a reasonable explanation is that the group of 12 times 12,000 who are mentioned in Revelation 7, is not related to tribes of physical Israel, but refers to a spiritual Israel and its "tribes".

REMEMBER that Jesus kingdom will include not just the Heavens but also the Earth.

Rev 21: 1,2 - And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven.

If you are not part of the 144,000 then you will be part of the great multitude mention in Rev 7:9.

behold two men stood by them in white apparel, who also said, men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw him go into heaven." (Acts 1:10,11).

Jesus will return and restore Israel (An Earthly Theocracy) not just for the Jews as Rev 7:9 says but for everyone.

2007-01-31 01:32:50 · answer #3 · answered by keiichi 6 · 0 0

Of course it doesnt, the 144,000 are exactly who it says it is, righteous Jews from all 12 tribes who were redeemed from the Earth. It never implies they are the only ones, infact Rev 7:9-10 says this

9After this I looked and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and in front of the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands. 10And they cried out in a loud voice:
"Salvation belongs to our God,
who sits on the throne,
and to the Lamb."

There will be MORE people in Heaven than 144,000... from everywhere in the world. So many that no one can number them. This is why we dont worry much about a handful that have a specific purpose at a certain time.

2007-01-30 05:17:00 · answer #4 · answered by impossble_dream 6 · 2 1

No, that is not what it means.

The 144,000 mentioned in Revelation, chapter 7 is referring to the Jews that will come to know Jesus (personal relationship) during the great tribulation.

You can be religious all day long and still go to hell-o, the lake of fire. It's the folks that have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ that will be going to Heaven.

2007-01-30 05:17:00 · answer #5 · answered by Salvation is a gift, Eph 2:8-9 6 · 1 1

No worries amy, 144,000 are not going to be the only ones who are going to recieve salvation.

Its only 144,001....

Just kidding amy I couldnt resist.

The truth is that is a Jehovah's Witness belief and were not even going to go there.

If you read the 7 chapter of the book of revelation you will reach verse 4. Leading up to verse 4 it will tell you about how God will send these 144,00 to the earth during the great tribulation and commands the angels not to harm these 144,000. God will send these 144,000 as servants to the earth to preach his gospel.

In verse 5 we see who these 144,000 are 12,000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel. They reappear later in chapter 14 completing the scripture that they would not be harmed. But here is the most beautiful and affirming part of this whole thing.

Keep reading in chapter 7 going up to verse 9 and there is the proof:
"After this I looked and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne in front of the Lamb. They were wearing robes and were holding palm branches in their hands."

A great multitude standing before the throne and in front of the Lamb, not 144,000 or 144,001 (hehe). A great multitude that noone could count...Praise the Lord!

2007-01-30 05:41:25 · answer #6 · answered by SavedByGrace316 1 · 1 1

The book of Rev. is symbolic and so are the numbers.
144,000 = 12 X12 or 12 squared

the first 12 symbolizes the 12 tribes of Israel
the second 12 symbolizes the 12 apostles

the number 12 is symbolic for BOTH
when something is squared it is perfected or complete

So what those numbers mean is that "all Isael, the righteous from BOTH covenants will be saved and perfected."

the complete number of Israel will be saved.

2007-01-30 06:07:51 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Are the 144,000 only natural Jews?

Rev. 7:4-8: “I heard the number of those who were sealed, a hundred and forty-four thousand, sealed out of every tribe of the sons of Israel: . . . Judah . . . Reuben . . . Gad . . . Asher . . . Naphtali . . . Manasseh . . . Simeon . . . Levi . . . Issachar . . . Zebulun . . . Joseph . . . Benjamin.” (These cannot be the tribes of natural Israel because there never was a tribe of Joseph, the tribes of Ephraim and Dan are not included in the list here, and the Levites were set aside for service in connection with the temple but were not reckoned as one of the 12 tribes. See Numbers 1:4-16.)

Rom. 2:28, 29: “He is not a Jew who is one on the outside, nor is circumcision that which is on the outside upon the flesh. But he is a Jew who is one on the inside, and his circumcision is that of the heart by spirit, and not by a written code.”

Gal. 3:26-29: “You are all, in fact, sons of God through your faith in Christ Jesus. . . . There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor freeman, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one person in union with Christ Jesus. Moreover, if you belong to Christ, you are really Abraham’s seed, heirs with reference to a promise.”

Is the number 144,000 merely symbolic?

The answer is indicated by the fact that, after mention of the definite number 144,000, Revelation 7:9 refers to “a great crowd, which no man was able to number.” If the number 144,000 were not literal it would lack meaning as a contrast to the “great crowd.” Viewing the number as literal agrees with Jesus’ statement at Matthew 22:14 regarding the Kingdom of the heavens: “There are many invited, but few chosen.”
What will those who go to heaven do there?

Rev. 20:6: “They will be priests of God and of the Christ, and will rule as kings with him for the thousand years.” (Also Daniel 7:27)

1 Cor. 6:2: “Do you not know that the holy ones will judge the world?”

Rev. 5:10: “You made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over [“on,” RS, KJ, Dy; “over,” AT, Da, Kx, CC] the earth.” (The same Greek word and grammatical structure is found at Revelation 11:6. There RS, KJ, Dy, etc., all render it “over.”)

2007-01-30 05:28:02 · answer #8 · answered by papa G 6 · 2 0

The 144,000 refers to the 144,000 true Jews that Jesus will bring together in the end time. They must be of true heritage and they must be believers in Jesus Christ.

2007-01-30 05:13:26 · answer #9 · answered by free 1 indeed 4 · 1 3

Harpazo = Rapture

END-TIME BIBLE PROPHECY

The Messiah Lord Jesus said BIRTH PANGS would signal the time of the end (Matthew 24:8). There are NINE birth pangs, they are all PRE-TRIBULATIONAL and the 1st three already occurred.

The first birth pang was worldwide conflict coupled with famines and earthquakes (Matthew 24:7-8). Worldwide conflict was fulfilled in 1914-1918, major famines happened in 1918-1921 and most of the world’s major earthquakes began to occur since 1900.

The second birth pang was the restoration of a Jewish State (Ezekiel 20:33-38; Ezekiel 22:17-22; Ezekiel 36:22-24; Zephaniah 2:1-2). This was fulfilled in 1948.

The third birth pang was Jewish control of the Old City of Jerusalem (Revelation 11:1-2). For the third Jewish Temple (Tribulation Temple) to be rebuilt, Jerusalem needs to be under Jewish control and this was accomplished in the Six Day War in 1967.

The fourth birth pang will be the Ezekiel 38 war. Russia, allied states of Iran, Ethiopia, Somalia, Germany and Armenia will invade Israel. God will miraculously destroy the invading army by earthquake, civil war among the invading soldiers, pestilence, blood, flood, hailstones, fire and brimstone. This will bring a revival in Israel where many Jews will turn to the Lord, and Israel will spend 7 years and 7 months burying the bodies and burning for fuel the military equipment left behind (Ezekiel 39:9-16).

The 5th birth pang will be the development of a one world government (Daniel 7:23-24).

The 6th birth pang will be the splitting of the one world government into 10 kingdoms and this Ten Kingdom Stage will continue until mid-Tribulation (Daniel 7:24).

The 7th birth pang will be the revelation of the Antichrist (II Thessalonians 2:1-3; Daniel 7:24).

The 8th birth pang will be a period of peace and false security that will be shattered by the Tribulation (1 Thessalonians 5:1-3).

The 9th and final birth pang before the Tribulation is the signing of the 7-year covenant between Israel and the Antichrist. THIS EVENT IS WHAT BEGINS THE (7-year) TRIBULATION - NOT THE RAPTURE!

The Rapture of the Church (1 Thessalonians 4:16-18) is also a pre-tribulational event (Luke 21:34-37; 1 Thessalonians 1:9-10; 1 Thessalonians 5:1-10; Revelation 3:10; Revelation 19:6-8). The fact that the Church is not mentioned in any of the Tribulation Scriptures proves the Rapture is pre-tribulational. All raptured Christians will receive glorified bodies (Romans 8:22-23; 1 Corinthians 15:50-54)) and it can happen at any second.


THE FIRST HALF OF THE TRIBULATION (SUPPORTING VERSES IN REVELATION 6-9 AND 17)

The Ministry of 144,000 sealed Jewish believers will bring many throughout the world to accept Christ.

There will be a powerful Ministry of Two Witnesses who will also be anointed Jewish believers.

A one world religious system (Babylon the Harlot) will rule. Under this one world religious system, many who are saved during the Tribulation will suffer persecution and death.

The Political system of the 10 kings of the one world government will continue.

During the first half of the Tribulation there will also be war, worldwide famine, death (1/4 of the world’s population will die), a huge earthquake, a blackout and a meteor shower. 1/3 of earth’s dry surface will be destroyed, 1/3 sea life and salt water will be destroyed, a fallen angel called Wormwood will make 1/3 of earth’s fresh water bitter, 1/3 of earth’s natural light sources will be destroyed, there will be another blackout and demons in the form of “locust-scorpions” will come up out of the abyss led by Abaddon their king and they will inflict harm and pain for five months upon those who are not sealed by God (unbelievers). Another demonic invasion will occur and the demons involved will be led by four fallen angels who will be released from the Euphrates River and this army will kill 1/3 of the earth’s population.


MID-TRIBULATION (SUPPORTING VERSES IN REVELATION 10-14 AND 17)

The Antichrist will war against the 10 kings, and during the war the Antichrist will be killed.

Satan will be cast out of the atmospheric heavens onto earth and will resurrect the Antichrist.

The Antichrist will kill 3 kings (the kings of Syria, Egypt and Mesopotamia) and the 7 other kings will submit to him.

The Antichrist will kill the Two Witnesses in Jerusalem and the wicked people will celebrate this event. Three and a half days afterwards, God will resurrect the Two Witnesses and take them up to Heaven and the people who celebrated will become terrified. The city of Jerusalem where the murder of the Two Witnesses occurred will then suffer an earthquake which will kill 7,000 people.

The False Prophet will receive from Satan the power to perform great miracles and will deceive many. The False Prophet will command all people to worship the Antichrist and have persons create an image to the Antichrist. The False Prophet will use his satanic powers to give it life and the ability to speak. The False Prophet will cause those who refuse to worship the Antichrist and the image to be killed.

The False Prophet will issue his own counterfeit seal known as the Mark of the Beast and it will be placed on all those who surrender to the Antichrist’s authority and accept him as god. Those who refuse to take this mark will not be able to buy or sell. Those who take this mark will spend eternity in the Lake of Fire.

The Antichrist will break the seven-year covenant he made with Israel, cause the sacrifices to stop, sit in the Jewish Temple, declare to the world that he is really God and set up an idol called the Abomination of Desolation in the Temple (Daniel 9:27; Daniel 12:11; Matthew 24:15-16; 11Thessalonians 2:3-4; Revelation 13:11-15).

Through the Antichrist and the False Prophet, Satan will attempt to destroy the Jews once and for all but he will fail because 1/3 of the Jews will succeed in fleeing into the wilderness. These Jews who escape will accept the Lord Jesus as their Saviour during the Tribulation (Zechariah 13:7-9) and while they are in hiding, God will miraculously provide for them (Zechariah 13:8-9; Isaiah 41:17-20). Divine intervention will also destroy the pursuing army.


THE SECOND HALF OF THE TRIBULATION (SUPPORTING VERSES FOUND IN REVELATION 15, 16, 18, 19, 20)

In the second half of the Tribulation, those with the Mark of the Beast will suffer skin sores, the remainder of sea water and fresh water will be destroyed, the sun will cause terrible burns and the wicked will blaspheme God. There will be yet another blackout and persons will suffer gnawing pains.

Babylon will be the center of world economy and political system but Babylon will be swiftly destroyed by fire and become uninhabitable for man.

The Antichrist will locate the Jews who sought refuge in the wilderness and surround them with his armies to wipe them out. The Lord Jesus will then descend from Heaven with His angels and Saints. He will come with great glory riding upon a horse and will destroy the Antichrist, the False Prophet and all of their armies. After this, a loud voice will cry out “It is done!” followed by the greatest earthquake in the earth’s history and hail weighing 120 pounds will fall.

At the end of the Tribulation, there will be another blackout, the stars will fall from the sky and the heavenly bodies will be shaken (Matthew 24:29), the Antichrist and the False Prophet will be thrown into the eternal Lake of Fire and Satan will be cast into the Abyss and bound for 1,000 years.


THE MILLENNIUM

The Lord Jesus will reign over the entire earth during the Millennium. The Jewish and Gentile believers who survive the Tribulation will go on to populate the Millennium. Believers who died before and during the Tribulation and believers who were raptured will be present on earth during the Millennium and because they will have glorified bodies they will not reproduce. All believers will be given special tasks by the Lord Jesus (Revelation 20:4-6). There will be no wars (Isaiah 2:2-4), animals will return to the Edenic state and become vegetarians (Isaiah 11:6-9), people will not labour in vain but eat what they plant and inhabit what they build, there will be renovations in the heavens and earth and there will be righteous and unrighteous children born during the Millennium (Isaiah 65:17-25).

At the end of the Millennium, Satan will be loosed from the Abyss and will deceive and gather the unrighteous for a war against the righteous. This will be his final attempt to destroy the righteous and when the unrighteous of the Millennium surround the good people, God will send fire down from Heaven which will suddenly and massively annihilate all of the wicked people. Satan will then be cast into the Lake of Fire where he will remain in torment for eternity (Revelation 20:7-10).


THE GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGMENT

The Great White Throne Judgment will be the next main event. The old heavens and earth will be done away with and all will stand before God’s throne to be judged (Revelation 20:11-12). Those whose names are not found written in the Book of Life will be cast into the Lake of Fire which will be their final and eternal abode (Revelation 20:14-15).


THE ETERNAL ORDER (REVELATION 21 AND 22)

Those whose names are found in the Book of Life will enjoy paradise with God forever. The heavens and earth will be made new and the New Jerusalem will come down upon the earth making the earth like Heaven. All curses from the fall will be removed and the earth will be inhabited by the Triune God (The Father, Son and Holy Spirit), all angels and all of the righteous. The seas, moon, night and sun will be done away with and the glory of God will illuminate the earth. The River of Life will flow from God’s throne, the Tree of Life will bear health-giving fruits and leaves and the name of Jesus will be on the foreheads of all of the righteous.


God’s Plan of Salvation for Us
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZkDk1GZ7do

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