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Let me start off by saying that I’m not white, so I’m unbiased. This is just an observation and opinion of mine.

I notice a lot of times the men most opposed to feminism seem to be white men, I was wondering if this opposition to feminism is secretly or subconsciously anger towards white women? Because White women are usually the ones most associated with feminism more often then not.

As a women I can see white males point of view. Like it or not a women’s standard of living depends on how their men provide for them, and white males have probably provided better for their women then any other race. Generally women living in Europe, America, Canada, and Australia have lived a much more luxurious lifestyle then women of other races or parts of the world. White males have invented Cars, Computers, the internet, television, Planes, and probably the most advanced countries ever yet their women still constantly complain about it being “a white mans world” and openly talk about wanting to take as much power from them as they can. It gives off the appearance of ungratefulness when even African and Mexican women for example who have a much less comfortable lifestyle are happy with their men, care for them, and less likely to bash them. I think this is the reason white men like Asian and Latin women so much, they are hard working, respectful, caring, intelligent, good mothers, and very feminine. White women are no longer seen as traditional and having a reputation of being promiscuous, materialistic, arrogant, disrespectful, and shallow.

I can also see a white women’s point of view. White women still don’t make the same amount of money as a man does for the same work, white males still hold the majority of the power and white women want to be completely self reliant. I don’t think white women hate white men but have a desire to be completely independent so when they get together with a man it because of mutual attraction and not because they feel indebted to white men. I also think white women believe that they are leading the movement of helping all women become self reliant, almost like they think they are the only ones who can do it.

So I’m I right or wrong?

2007-01-30 04:22:58 · 43 answers · asked by Anonymous in Family & Relationships Singles & Dating

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It is also white men who refused to let women vote. It was white men who expected women to stay at home and do nothing. It was white men that thought it was good for a women to wear a corset that was so tight that it could kill.

It was white women that changed the above. If this was a couple of decades/centuries ago when the above were still in place, then I would understand why some white men would be angry at the uprise white women were causing. I would understand even more why white women would be angry at white men.

HOWEVER, I do not think that most white women or white men feel the same same today. Sure, there are still some white jerks of a man that feel that girls can't do certain things and that guys have the right to control women but heck, those men are not many and they're viewed as jerks by the majority. And if there are white women who feel there is no equality anymore, I don't really see why all the complaining. We do not have it bad at all.

If anything, I think it would be brown women that have the right to complain. If I was forced to wear all black from head to toe in one of the hottest regions in the world, I would definitely be beet red.

I don't think you're right or wrong. I just think this issue is ancient. In general, white women do not feel inferior to men and white men do not feel superior to women. Of course, as with any generalization there are exceptions but in a white society, you are not viewed as "THE MAN" if you hit your wife, etc.

2007-01-30 04:36:20 · answer #1 · answered by Basiate 5 · 2 14

couldn't read all of it but it proves women are never satisfied. I don't believe in abusing them. I like them. But, I do believe they should not depend on men for support. I do believe they should do something besides get pregnant in an already over populated world. They feel as long as they are producting babies they shouldn't have to do anything else. When a factory over produces we shut it down. But, then that would be what a man would do. Surely they can find something to do besides have babies. Except the asian women part. I want a white women with spunk that has an education and a job and is independent and a life partner. Not a slave. I can hire a housekeeper and I have a dog. Your sterotypeing all white women, and all asian women. Which isn't true of either race. Mrs America for two years has been a women from Oklahoma. There is the prettiest most independent and moral kind women in the world. That is going to be the one I want to marry.

2016-03-29 09:50:56 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

***I want to start out by saying that when I say the word "men" i am NOT talking about ALL men. There ARE men out there that do not fit into this category. I call these men "the evolved".

I don't think its so much an issue of white men being angry at white women - more of an issue of dominance.

Men are by nature dominant, its in their genetic makeup to be so. They are naturally controlling, protective, and territorial.
With the feminist movement came a usurping of male authority. It was almost like a mutiny. As with any change of leadership, complications arise. We are still in these stages of transition. Not everything is equal-rights yet. Who's to say if it ever will be. Its exactly like a weight scale...when one side goes up, the other must come down a bit to balance it out. While women rise on the scale of independence, the male side will have to lower itself to balance everything out. Most men are in acceptance of this and don't even recognize it as an issue [the elvolved man]. Others, however, are sticking to the "old ways" where women stayed at home with the kids and had dinner on the table when they got home. The problem with this is: it creates unbalance.
Neither way is right nor wrong. Simply a diversity in the way people live their lives.
We will continue to see the rediculousness of the "cave-men" as the movement for equal rights continues. I don't think all the women in America will be putting in their two weeks and going back home simply because a few testosterone-infused numbskulls lost a small margin control.

2007-01-30 04:45:47 · answer #3 · answered by hopek2006 2 · 3 2

I am white..I married an Arab..people think Arab men are all women hating..this isn't true..like any society there are those that do and those that don't. He is more decent than any white man I have ever met here in the US. We both work equally hard for our money (I earn more than he does right now) and care for one another and my family. I am not promiscuous, arrogant or shallow and respect so long as I am respected. I do not judge anyone by their race or heritage and do not generalize. I actually live in an area with a very high Asian content..white women here say about Asian women what you say about whites..so really..it is all a point of view.. personally I just live and treat people how I would like to be treated..the golden rule.

2007-01-30 04:39:42 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

being a women i would not exspect a women to be writting this. You say that "white women" are undeserving and other races are not. The other races in this world have been brought up differently. Women in other countries are looked down on just for being a women.There told at a young age there not worthy and are only good for giving babies and doing housework and nothing else. So of course wen there so ashamed like that there gonna respect the man more just out of how there were razed.Women in this country are allowed to be whatever the can be not only do most women have a career but they also take care of there familys. Even in this country some people want women in the kitchen and thats why "white women" want to change that for not just people in this country but all over the world. In my opinion this question is absurd exspecially coming from a women herself.

2007-01-30 15:07:05 · answer #5 · answered by Rebecca golder 1 · 0 2

Wow. Excellent question!

I believe your views of the various perspectives are well reasoned. However, you seem to have this underlying view that the roots of feminism lie in some racially specific discontent with one’s lot in life. I believe the roots are more cultural than racial. In the western world up until the fairly recent past women were, for all practical purposes, non-persons in the eyes of the law. In fact, there were viewed as little more than a man’s property. This made a women totally dependant on the benevolence of a man. Surely you can understand that in a culture built on individualism how being viewed as little more than chattel simply because one was born without a penis would give the women of the era cause for discontentment. In the beginning it was not a matter of being discontent to fulfill the role of wife and mother; it was a matter of not being allowed to actively participate in the realms of law and commerce or being taken seriously in more intellectual endeavors without having a male intermediary. Women justly fought for and eventually won the right to vote and proceeded to use that political power to re-enforce the notion that they are human beings and should be accorded all of the rights and privileges thereof.

It was not until after WWII that feminism began to take an ugly turn. Up until that time the family unit remained pretty consistent. Men were the breadwinners of the family and the women took care of the daily activities associated with maintaining the home and hearth. During the war, however, the vast majority of men went out to serve their country and the domestic workforce suddenly became 80% female. After the war ended many women found that a return to the traditional role left them somewhat unfulfilled. This discontentment sort of festered until the great social revolution of the 1970s. At that time women found themselves, in the eyes of society, able to hold any job they wanted and yes, even choose to be single and career minded without it being viewed as some sort of social stigmata.

Fortunately, after a generation of the “what the heck do we need men for” brand of feminism the pendulum seems to be swinging back towards a desire for more traditional family units. Many women have come to realize that contrary to what the feminists of the 70s and 80s were preaching, being a wife and mother is a perfectly valid choice and those who choose to do so are not necessarily oppressed slaves to their male overlords.

When raising families there are a certain amount of items that simply need to be done, these generally fall into the breadwinner category and the home and hearth category. Fortunately, feminism has taught us that the divisions of these tasks do not necessarily need to be based on gender. While it is true that women tend to be better at the domestic side of things and men tend to do better with bringing home the bacon, the lessons of feminism have taught us that a women is no less of a women if she chooses to work and a man is no less of a man if he chooses to take care of the domestic needs of the family. What really matters is that it is a functional and loving partnership. Isn’t this, after all is said and done, how it should be?

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For what it’s worth, I am a white man who is very happily married to a strong independent woman. In our household things tend to be divided along fairly traditional lines. However, this is a mutual choice and a matter of practicality, not a belief that “a woman’s place is in the home”.

In the words of a reggie song I once heard: “God bless the women…”

2007-01-30 05:43:28 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Your question was a lot to take in. The point I will argue loudly is where you said "women’s standard of living depends on how their men provide for them". As a white woman, I can tell you this is not true a majority of the time. I work with a ton of single women who are wonderful providers and depend on themselves, not a man, to take care of them financially. I also work with men doing the same job I do, and I make more than them.

I also work with women of many races, and will also tend to disagree with the statement that white women belive they are leading the movement of helping all women become self reliant. A majority of the families I work with are headed by a single black mom, and if there is anyone who has confidence and strength, it is her!!!! You should modify the beginning of your question, because your words are not only biased, they are uninformed.

2007-01-30 04:41:41 · answer #7 · answered by advocator_16 2 · 2 2

Of course women want to be treated equal and be paid equal. They want equal rights. But they are not self-reliant. Most women would call a tow-truck driver and wait 2 hours on the side of the road because they don't want to mess their nails up while changing a flat tire. Women will get mad about a man not holding a door for them. There are a lot of things women expect men to do for them based on the fact that they are women and can't or shouldn't have to do it. That doesn't really sound like they are fighting for equality too hard.
I don't think it is a white woman thing, I think it is women in general, women from certain parts of the country, or certain parts of the world, and the way they were raised. If they were raised by an independent woman, they would likely be more successful without having to rely on a man. It really doesn't have anything to do with skin color, but how they are brought up.

2007-01-30 04:39:29 · answer #8 · answered by pimpn240sx 2 · 1 3

A sweeping generalization, right? The term for men who hate women is "misogynist". I think that's a minority of men.

Being angry at women and being against the feminist movement are not the same thing. Not all women belong to the feminist movement.

Now, all that said, you might be observing a reaction to the power shift that has been happening in our culture since the Women's Rights movement gained steam in the 60s. Men are still trying to sort out where it leaves them in the societal gender role -- now that women don't need them financially, professionally, or even reproductively.

Men are in the process of re-defining what they mean to women, and women have gained power and the ability to expect more.

This is going to take a long time to sort out. I mean, when you stop and think about it, we are talking about a major shift in gender roles here that is a major disruption of the cultural status quo.

It was a necessary disruption, but the aftershocks are going to be felt for a long time. We are stil in the beginning stages of sorting this thing out.

2007-01-30 04:34:44 · answer #9 · answered by Murphy 3 · 3 1

Hey guys,

White women do not make as much as men because they usually don't work as much. Men on average work around 60 hrs a week. Women only work on average 36. Women choose jobs for convenience and accessibility so they can be with the fruits of their women.

America is still half capitalist, so no, a woman shouldn't get paid the same as a man that works twice as hard as her.

Men are more likely to move where a job takes them, more likely to take risky jobs to pay the bills. 95% of on the job deaths are male. I'm sure if it was the other way around women would complain.

I'm not complaining, I'm just pointing out that we do not live in a communist nation, yet.

White women have a negative view of men due to the propaganda by radical feminism. For some reason they are out to ruin all normal marriages and get women to kill their very own babies in the womb to compete with men in the workforce.

Its really sad, that state of affairs in America! Women and men are not the same, Its sad that women are taught to suppress their biological clocks for an education. Studies show that children born to young mothers are more likely to live to a ripe old age!!!

2007-01-30 06:29:35 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 3 3

Wow, what a bunch of manginas most of the guys in this forum are.

A woman is NEVER going to respect you for being a kind, sensitive, pro-equality male, much less give you access to her booty. Get over it and turn the clock back to 1953 -- men have the power to do so if they chose to simply exercise it. Problem is that most of today's dating men do not know how good times were for both men and women back then. Feminism has boned us good.

2007-01-30 05:33:52 · answer #11 · answered by Jeff 1 · 5 1

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