is this true or false?

Question

As to the Taurat (Torah), Jewish scribes painstakingly copied it via a system of checking, double checking and adding each letter on each line. Any attempt to change something in the Torah would have resulted in immediate discovery and condemnation. And copies of the Torah from around the world agree exactly. Thousands of the Hebrew Old Testament manuscript copies are still available for textual criticism, ranging in age from the second century B.C. (Before Christ) to the eleventh century A.D. (After Christ).

This same quality of transmission cannot be said of the Islamic Qur'an. The Islamic Qur'an was mostly written down from 3rd and 4th hand accounts; and from a few thoughts written on scrap papers, palm leaves and stones --and compiled over 150 years after Muhammad died in 632 A.D. In the Mishtatu ‘lMasabih, chapter 3, we are informed that by the command of the first Caliph, Abu Bakr, the text of the Qur’an was “collected” by Zaid ibn Thabit “from palm leaves and stones and from the breasts of those who had learned by heart” the various revelations." Abu Bakr’s copy came into the possession of Hafsah, one of Muhammad’s widows. Qustalani states that after Hafsah’s death her copy was torn to pieces by Mirwan, who was governor of Medina.

The oldest Qur'an dates from around 790 A.D. (after Jesus), and it is in the British Library. That's 158 years after Muhammad’s death. See corrupted Qur'an here .

Muslims often claim that the manuscript of the Qur'an housed in the Topkapi Museum in Istanbul, Turkey is one of the oldest sources. Muslims say it dates from around 650 A.D. There is an insurmountable problem with this. This document is written in Kufic (also known as al-Khatt al-Kufi) script. Coins in the British Museum show that the first coins using the Kufic script date from the mid to end of the 8th century (750-800 A.D.). The only script used during and after Muhammad's days was the Jazm script.

Answer 1

As I continue to search knowledge, I feel Mohammad had a false dream...........and now they are waiting for Mahdi. To me much of what Mahdi will do parallels the anti-Christ.

But as far as "End Times"..........no one knows when and I think it's sad that so many are focused on this "rapture" thing when all should just be walking in the way of the Lord and following his commandments.
Enjoy life that God gave you and walk in his ways.
Peace be with you.



The Apocalypse Of Saint John
Chapter 22
16 I Jesus have sent my angel, to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the root and stock of David, the bright and morning star. 17 And the spirit and the bride say: Come. And he that heareth, let him say: Come. And he that thirsteth, let him come: and he that will, let him take the water of life, freely. 18 For I testify to every one that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book: If any man shall add to these things, God shall add unto him the plagues written in this book. 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from these things that are written in this book. 20 He that giveth testimony of these things, saith, Surely I come quickly: Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.

21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

Source(s):

Latin Vulgate
Douay-Rheims Bible

Answer 2

Firstly here is a link:
http://www.albalagh.net/kids/history/quran_compilation.shtml

Yeah I read that "argument" before, there are two Quran that date back to 650 C.E. the Topkapi and Samarkand.

About the script let's take a look at British Pound Coins, around the rim is latin for example "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" (No one provokes me with impunity). Does this indicate that the language spoken in Britain is Latin?

The Arabic language is used in calligraphy and used as design, coins these design could have and probably were used for design.

Also these copies were being sent to place where peoples first language was not Arabic writing the Quran in a different script would have made it easier for those people to learn the language. Something joined up writing and non joined up writing in the UK!

Answer 3

I do not know about the Torah (O.T.) but
The Holy Bible (KJV) O.T. and N.T. are dated back as far as the 1st Century.
There are 5,000 Authentic Greek New Testament scripts, as far back as the 1st Century in museums today and they are unchanged from the KJV which was translated hundreds of years before the FAMOUS Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered in 1958, and Almost the entire OT was recovered and still remeined unchanged . The transcribing authorized by King James was done under threat of death if any "i" was left undotted or any "t" was left uncrossed.
God's word the Holy Bible will never pass away.
Jesus and God's word will always be here for our learning.

Answer 4

Actually that is false.

Anyone who has studied the Masoretic texts (the Torah and Tanach in Hebrew manuscripts)

You will find thousands of differences. Not as much in the first five books but all over in the the rest.


Most of these errors are differences in spelling the same word, but it cannot be denied that they do exist.

If one were to compare the Issiah scroll of Qumran with the Leningrad Codex (I have) they would find many differences.

as to the ramification of these differences that is another issue entirely, but do they exist. Absolutely

Answer 5

you have neglected one things about those Muslims and Arabs..see at those times most of them were illiterate, and they used to live in the desert and were great poets... they used to memorize long poets and always edit them all year to compete with one another on one occasion.. so they were used to memorize very long verses and poems...
therefore, when the Quran was reveled, and it is easy to memorize because of the way the language was used..therefore people were great in memorizing it..and only Muslims memorized it and were quiet aware of God's wrath to whoever adds or changes the Quran and they were God fearing..

Hafsah's copy was never torn apart...

and God gave His word to Muslims and the prophet that His scripture -the Quran - will always be preserved .. no matter what..so it really does need little faith...

God knows best..

Answer 6

It can be either.
When it comes to religion then if you believe then for you it is true. If you do not then it is not true.

It was all written by people even from the very beginning.

Truth and fiction often are very difficult to separate.

Answer 7

I see the light now, thank you for reintroducing me to the renaissance and when the "crusades," the "plague," and random burning of people at the fireside just because they were an enemy of the state was common because of the o holy torah.

Answer 8

http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/TorahTrue.htm

Answer 9

uhmm..looking at the size of that selection, i'd say its true...plus i didnt read it...man, its toooo daaamn long!