Will Islam ever get over its legalistic phase like Christianity did with Judaism?

Question

Or has it happened already?

Answer 1

The funny thing about reformations in religion is that whatever your intentions, the minute it becomes organized it goes back to what you refereed to as a "legalistic phase". I don't think you can make any argument that the Catholic Church...which supposedly reformed Judaism...isn't more corrupt and bureaucratic then what it allegedly reformed. The Protestant Churches are no less bureaucratic, or as you put it...legalistic. The only difference is that the Catholic Church has the most organized central Hierarchy. Any organization..weather it's a church, a shoe store, a Government agency, or a brothel....has as it;s first aim self perpetuation. This means they all raise money, have rules for membership, etc. The perpetuation of the organization is more important then what those organizations do as the end result of their function.

Answer 2

You can tell a lot historically about the 3 book-based religions by how they interact with outsiders. All three had their phases of extreme violence, where killing was done in God's name and anyone who believed in a different version of God was forced to either convert or die. Speaking out against the religion was also punishable by death, as was anything else that broke the official rules in the book. When did these phases happen in each of the 3 religions?

The Jews haven't had a violent or genocidal attitude towards non-Jews for almost 3 milleniums. The battle for Jericho in the Old Testament talks about the Israeli general Josh and how after capturing the city, he ordered his troops to exterminate the citizens there. This was not considered as barbaric 3000 years ago as it is today, it was happening at the same time in China and elsewhere. The crucifixion of Jesus is really the last time you hear about Jews killing in God's name, and today it seems completely out-of-character for them.

That's because Christianity's legalistic phase was much more extreme and recent than Judaism's. In the original war for the Middle East, the Pope instigated the Christians to rush to Israel and jihad the Muslims (Crusade=Jihad). Many were told to convert or die, and they responded in kind. WHen Christians got to the Americas they had the same attitude towards the Indians. Not to mention all the people who got burned at the stake over the years for witchcraft or heresy by the church. But eventually, the church grew up. The west had a little period called the Enlightenment, and that's why we haven't declared a holy war in about 600 years.

This is the problem with Islam as a whole. Their religion hasn't moved past this phase and realized that killing in God's name is a contradictory idea, especially if they claim as Jews and Christians do to believe in Moses and the 10 Commandments. The Egyptian blogger that got arrested for "insulting Islam" is in the same boat as Joan of Arc when she got burned alive for "heresy" (saying she spoke directly to God). Until Islam can grow out of this phase it will continue to look more and more like fascism to those of us in open and free societies.

Answer 3

Baha'i is really no longer a blend of religions. Baha'i is honestly an finished new set of beliefs and values. in case you bypass to a Baha'i temple you'll locate they don't communicate about the Bible, Torah, or Qur'an yet writings unique to their following. the reason human beings use the time period "Judeo-Christian" is because the Christian stream all began as a Jewish sect and has most of the mandatory beliefs that Jews carry. which includes the unique worship of Yahweh. i'm a Christian and a strict monotheist. we do not share an same beliefs or worldview because the Muslims do and Allah's attributes are honestly diverse from Yahweh's. Plus, Islam begins to fluctuate from Judaism very early on starting up with Ishmael and Issac. of their practice and observance of their beliefs, that's their approaches of worship Judaism and Islam are extra in person-friendly.

Answer 4

Islam unlike Christianity and Judaism will never lower its standards nor compromise its beliefs. It is the only religion that has stood the test of time.

Answer 5

It is happening. If Islam wants to join the modern world, it must happen. History shows us that religions can only thrive in the modern world if they learn their place, ie as faiths or belief systems (but nothing more) in a secular society.

Answer 6

God willing, no. But at the same time, there are many Muslims who do not follow the legalities of Islam.

Answer 7

Will it ever get out of 644, when Uthman, not Mohammed standardized the Koran?

Answer 8

Yes eventually.

Answer 9

It's already happened for many people I know.

Answer 10

No, that is actually one its many positive aspects. It doesn't make unnatural divisions between civil and religious law.