How can a Christian (look! i spelled it correctly! wasn't that hard actually) look past the fact that homosexuality is a sin? What would be the point in being a Christian if we overlooked something that is in the bible?
2007-01-29 20:53:20
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answer #1
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answered by Annie Rod 6
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cristians what have gays and athiests ever done to you?
I'm not a "Christian" anymore, I am a messianic Jew (not by blood)
I do believe that being gay is a sin, but it's not my place to pass judgement on anyone (see Romans 2:1). I'm supposed to show love for everyone. I'm glad that anyone has the ability to love. It's my place to make my own decisions, not to make them for others.
"cristians could you ever look past that gayness is a sin, just coz it's writen in a book doesnt make it true, there are severil books that say that religion doesnt exist so they all must be true."
Well I believe the word of G-d is true, not the Bible. It has been so mistranslated and edited. I believe gayness is a sin, but it's not my place to deal with sins, just the people, who I have been commanded to love. I don't believe what I do because I have been told to, I believe what I feel from personal experience.
"athiests if cristians were nicer to you, and acsepted you, would you be nicer to them?" I went through a period in my teens where I was an athiest, I hated Christianity because of the judgement and hypocrisy by many members of the faith. I found others who believe more like I had (messianic jews) who lived their lives instead of judging others, so I guess my answer would've been yes
"gays are you put off beleaving or listning to anything religion has to say because of how they have labeled you a sinner"
n/a
"athiests as above, r u put of by all the moking."
mocking?
2007-01-29 20:30:27
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answered by Anonymous
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People have a right to their beliefs. They also have a right to say what they want when they want. Atheist do more mocking than Christians. You misspelled Christian. In defense of every ones beliefs Christian and other, if a person believes that the information in their holy book was given by god and they truly believe then there is no reason to believe what would be written contrary in another book. Atheist don't want acceptance they want to be left alone. Gays don't care that what they do is a sin even if they believe in God, more than likely they change their personal beliefs to fit their lifestyle. Anyone who believes that they had no say in their condition would do the same. Because they didn't ask to be gay it must be okay would be their viewpoint. An alcoholic would say the same, so would a wife beater. I mention these two not because they are socially unacceptable but because these people also feel like they were made to be the way they are and had no choice. My answer is stop trying to harass people out of there beliefs.
2007-01-29 20:30:29
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answer #3
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answered by Fat Fred Fontaine 2
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Speaking as a Christian here ....
Not all Christians are hateful and judgemental. I know sometimes on this forum it appears that way, but there are many of us who are not. And I cringe whenever I hear someone who claims to be saved spreading hate against any group of people. Personally, I don't have anything against atheists or gay people. Simply because they've chosen to make different choices than I have doesn't make them BAD people ... just like many people have demonstrated that being a Christian doesn't make you a GOOD person.
When an atheist attacks my faith, I will defend it to the very end ... and if you pay attention to many questions on this forum, that's usually how it is. NOT ALWAYS, but usually. However, as a believer (and an ADULT), I don't feel the need to get down and dirty just to have a friendly debate. I'll never insult an atheist as a person, I'll simply lay my beliefs out for them to read and consider. I'd love for every atheist to be able to experience the joy that I have since I've been saved, but that's why God gave us free will -- they are simply exercising their God-given right, and that's fine.
As far as the widespread opinion on homosexuality: yes, the Bible says that its a sin. It also says that lying is a sin, jealousy is a sin, adultery is a sin, stealing is a sin ... and I, myself have been guilty of all those things. Even though I am a Christian, I still sin -- and I know that in the eyes of God, my moment of untruthfulness lies equally with someone engaging in homosexual intercourse. Or heterosexual intercourse outside of marriage. We're commanded in the Bible not to judge others unless we are without sin ourselves. Many Christians forget that -- they deal with the guilt of their own indiscretions and therefore point fingers at others.
We'll always go back and forth and debate our opinions -- that won't change. And there will always be the extremists on both sides that simply want to stir up trouble. But, don't base your view of an entire group of people on a few hateful ones. There are those of us out there who are not like that -- but our quiet voices of reason are usually drowned out by all the yelling.
2007-01-29 20:27:50
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answer #4
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answered by Anonymous
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I was brought up a Christian. I do think some Christians are much too inclined to judge and condemn other people who are different. But I think judging and condemning are really the opposite of true Christianity. In the Old Testament, you find a lot of hellfire and brimstone; but Jesus said he came to replace the Old Law with a New Law, and the new law included this: "Love your neighbor as yourself." Which means, I think, that we should tolerate and try to understand gays & lesbians, and not condemn them or treat them as freaks but as we would like to be treated. Jesus himself mingled with, loved, and forgave all kinds of sinners.
On the other hand, Answers is not a place where you'll find very much deep thinking. Most people here go for the short, quick impulsive reply and it's not necessarily representative of how the average Christian would treat someone in person.
2007-01-30 00:13:27
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answered by AnOrdinaryGuy 5
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I could not get the full sense of your question. I interpret it to mean that you are asking why Christians seem to be offensive to gays and atheists, acting on their belief, based on scriptures, that homosexuality and sodomy and atheism, respectively, are sins
If some Christians appear offensive and self-righteous to some others, I think that that impression may have basis. Many Christians, sadly, behave just like that. However, let me take exception to this kind of behavior. God enjoins all people to be humble, treat his or her neighbor with justice, and even love his or her neighbor as Christ Himself loved all people. Christ's model of sacrifice and love of neighbor is what all Christians should follow.
Second, the approach taken by the Catholic Church is not so much as to condemn the sinner, but the sin. We are all sinners, and Christ taught us that we cannot condemn our fellow human being as hopeless. For as long as a person lives, there is every reason to hope that he would repent for his sins, and see the infinite love that his Father God has for him. Some people are effeminate or lesbian in tendencies not necessarily because of their own fault. Thus, family, environment, possibly genes, and other factors may have played a part in that person's make-up and upbringing. it would be wrong to vex or discriminate against them simply because of what they are.
However, homosexual acts cannot by any stretch, be acceptable to a Christian. It is contrary to the law engraved in the conscience of every individual: the natural law (not to be confused with the law of nature). Sex is proper only within the context of marriage between a man and a woman, and without excluding the possibility of a new life (a baby) coming out of that union. Sex cannot be between a man and another man, nor between women. People of the same sex engaging in sexual acts would be a grave disorder.
As for atheists, they too deserve compassion and understanding. Many people were atheists but became converted when they saw the light. Edith Stein, a German Jew, was an atheist who, upon reading the life of St. Teresa of Avila, became convinced of the existence of God. In due time, she became a Catholic nun. She perished during the holocaust, and later, was canonized by the Church.
Belief in a God cannot be forced on anyone. The Catholic Church fully respects the freedom of each individual. But if we look at nature and the causes of things, we can discover the existence of a God. Does anything move by itself? Can a thing move by itself? There is nothing in nature that can do that. Things move because other things move them. Eventually, reason will tell us that all things have a prime mover: God. Same for the causes of things, the order you find in the universe. Things have an origin and cause, and ultimately, that cause and origin is God. Now, you don't have to beg the question by saying "I believe in a God because the Bible says so." The existence of God is perfectly rational and demonstrable from nature.
2007-01-29 21:24:27
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answer #6
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answered by Rommel 3
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Does what the Bible teaches matter to any of you? The word Christian means; "Christ-like" follower of Jesus Christ. If you are not a true Christian, then you are not a follower of Christ. If you are not obedient to all the scriptures, and live and act as Christ, then you are not a Christian. Read and study the Bible, Authorized King James version, and learn what a true Christian really is. A true Christian IS-NOT what you see in these denominational churches that call themselves Christians. They are not Christians, they are 100% hypocrites and will not ever enter in to the Kingdom Of God. Read you Bible and see.
2016-03-29 09:23:38
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answered by Anonymous
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I am a christian.
Atheists and gays have done nothing to me, i hold absolutely nothing towards them.
Gayness is not a sin. It is a biological thing. In-fact, i read that at least 10% of gay people inherit it from their mother. they do not yet know (or so i understand) where the other 90% come from. I think at least some of it has to do with some sort of imbalance or something during foetal development.
Anyway, you have to understand that not all Christians dislike atheists and gays, and see it as evil. I know i certainly don't.
2007-01-29 20:25:09
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answered by Skippy 5
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Actually laziness (otherwise known as sloth) is one of the 7 worst sins. ; )
I'm not put off by believing purely because I'm labeled as a sinner or because of mocking (I'm gay & an atheist, oh noes), I'm disenclined to believe simply because I don't believe. I don't believe that there is a god or gods.
Why is it that people seem to assume that there's a reason besides disbelief when it comes to this? Jeez...
Let me put it this way: Do you believe in giant floating pink sky cows? I'd hazard a guess that you don't because it doesn't make much sense. That is exactly the way I feel about belief in gods.
2007-01-29 20:29:00
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answered by Anonymous
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Nice try but what I believe will always tend to insult some who believe in god/gods just because I don't..Sorry this will take many generations to assuage.
It is a great injustice to persecute homosexuality as a crime, and cruelty too.
- [Homosexuality] Sigmund Freud
Religion is an illusion and it derives its strength from the fact that it falls in with our instinctual desires.
- [Religion] Sigmund Freud
Religion is comparable to a childhood neurosis.
The more the fruits of knowledge become accessible to men, the more widespread is the decline of religious belief.
Just as no one can be forced into belief, so no one can be forced into unbelief.Sigmund Freud
People so badly search for a greater intelligence as to make one up; how about a genius who was just somewhat higher in intelligence,like Sigmund Freud?
2007-01-29 20:27:22
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answered by dogpatch USA 7
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A person's sexual orientation, sin or not, is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things... we all have sinned and come short of the glory of God... Personally, I would rather see two men who love each other than a man who beats his wife and children... but that is my own personal choice... it's not scriptural... what IS scriptural is this: since we're all sinners, we're all by default headed for hell... those who choose to accept Jesus sacrifice as redemption for their sins won't have to endure that punishment. So... sure... if you're gay, you can hug me... I'd just rather you didn't kiss me on the lips.
2007-01-29 20:21:22
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answered by Rev T L Clark 3
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