Is radical Islam like the BNP/(British National Party - ie racist)?

Question

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/30012007/325/muslims-angry-sharia-likened-bnp.html

Tory Leader David Cameron has likened radical islam amongst young muslims like the BNP (British National Party. a extreamist party liked the kkk like Combat 18 group and racist yobs the National Front.


What do you think?


Im supprised he took this long.

Both are into the death penatly, both dislike gays, both see women should just be in the home, both hate homosexauls, but dislike other races and cultures, both into extreme rules, both are into thugery, exclusion (sharia law is simply a violent way of suppressing gays and girl and affection) .


Both are anything but loved up hippies. Both are very relgious. Both have the same abramaic base. Both stir up trouble.Both are into macho dominance.


Both try and hide their true nature behind an image of respectablity and so called moral values.

Its just one in pro white and the other light brown and at least the BNPs aims are nowhere as

violent.


All islam is into is legalised violence and murder against gays, girls, unmarried sexually active young adults and teenagers.



Both hate public affection

Both obessed with rules

Some say its the odd nut...


So please explain things like the below which are national laws only in islamic countries...

Executing 13 year olds girls for having sex… Death by stoning the most violent, agonising and scary way… See video after link

http://www.iran-press-service.com/ips/articles-2004/october/izadi_161004.shtml


DEFFINETELY SEE THIS ALL THE WAY THOUGH TO THE END

IMAGINE THE SCREAMS AND USE A STOPWATCH


http://www.apostatesofislam.com/media/stoning.htm



TREATMENT OF WOMEN

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ateqeh_Rajabi

http://www.iranliberty.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=18&Itemid=63

http://www.amnesty.org/ailib/intcam/saudi/briefing/4.html

http://www.dhushara.com/book/sakina/stoningetc/stoning.htm

http://www.rawa.org/jail.htm

http://www.infoplease.com/spot/taliban.html
GAYS BEING EXECTUTED

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,1838222,0

16 year old hung for having sex.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2004/08/29/do2903.xml&sSheet=/portal/2004/08/29/ixportal.html

http://www.activistchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3661

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503547102

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21502

Death of a princess
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/princess/

http://www.transdiffusion.org/emc/behindthescreens/princess.php

Stoning for making love during miss world
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/2240790.stm

http://engforum.pravda.ru/showthread.php3?s=&threadid=155606

http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=5184

ALL punishments are carried out in the name if ISLAM!

HONOUR KILLINGS

http://www.rawa.org/honorkilling.htm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=396745&in_page_id=1770

http://www.infoplease.com/spot/taliban.html

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The Taliban, under the direction of Mullah Muhammad Omar, brought about this order through the institution of a very strict interpretation of Sharia, or Islamic law. Public executions and punishments (such as floggings) became regular events at Afghan soccer stadiums. Frivolous activities, like kite-flying, were outlawed. In order to root out "non-Islamic" influence, television, music, and the Internet were banned. Men were required to wear beards, and subjected to beatings if they didn't.

Most shocking to the West was the Taliban's treatment of women. When the Taliban took Kabul, they immediately forbade girls to go to school. Moreover, women were barred from working outside the home, precipitating a crisis in healthcare and education. Women were also prohibited from leaving their home without a male relative—those that did so risked being beaten, even shot, by officers of the "ministry for the protection of virtue and prevent

prevention of vice." A woman caught wearing fingernail polish may have had her fingertips chopped off. All this, according to the Taliban, was to safeguard women and their honor



BNP

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party

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then how can you accuse Islam.


Easy... looking at the evidence of what happens (ie sharia law killing and controlling girls, unmarried couples, mixed friends and gays) in islamic countires and the pathetic excuses for execution teenagers.


Ie could understand somone who spent 10 years abusing people being executed. But executered in the most agonising ways possible for dating?

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As a nation we seem to have willingly adopted the idea that religion is bad, secularism is good, and comparisions like this do not reverse the tide.


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Thats as secularisim is based on research, and evidence and fairness... Not any arbitary un questionable law..


Melluci

the BNP support floppings, executions, women in the home.


Unlike you I have watchted it for 17 years and its only recently that they got into spin ans suits and pretending to be respectable.


There were against music fors or other culture origins. very sexist, its tollerance for gays appears to be lies to appear fluffy... they never used to so it appears the leadership saying guys sush we will change this when in.

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Bruse K thats not true... Many islimic countries regard ALL un married sex as adultary... there are girls on death row and who have been executed. Seen the pictures and video.

As you mentioned anti gay.

And given arranged marriages to people you dont love any wonder people prefer going with somone they love rather then a husband.


Mate Ive seen the pictures and seen stoning videos etc...

And those are real children on death row


So no ignorance.

oh and

'I'd say yes...very ignorant and close minded. '

Yet you say homosexaulity isnt allowed. Thats that.

Have gay mates so sorry if being igornat and closed minded to those who would persecute martes who hurt nobody.


Likewise girl mates have got their boobs out a lot. Your lot would have them whiiped and many of my friends are female so I wouldn't be allowed to hang with mates and all friends and I have had pe marital sex. One couple being together for over 16 years.

So sorry if its close minded not to want them beaten up for being in love and not wanting relgious ceremonies

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neo nazi friends of the bnp combat 18

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_18

Answer 1

1000 times worse... don't see any B.N.P blowing them self's up on trains...i looked at some of the links and the vids of pulling a mans eye out stoning people with there hands behind there back hanging people from a Crane and the crowds love it deport all of them from Europe hitler was not so evil

Answer 2

Hmm..your question is very different than your comments and description.

I'd say yes...very ignorant and close minded.

For the most part i'm gonna hit up what was wrong though about your comments.

There are some strict rules and the point is god made up some rules, he told us these are the rights and wrongs and we are to follow them.

Premarital sex does not equal death. The punishment, i'm not sure on the exact number, is whipping from the elbow. If you notice, the big sting from whipping comes from the snapping of the wrist. Its meant to be humiliating, but not soo much as pain.

Adultery are rape are the only sexual things i know about which result in death. You might not agree, but this lets you know how islam views adultery....just as bad as rape.

Adultery too, only if you have 4 witnesses. Meaning, if someone committed adultery....felt guilty and repented...basically no death.
Whereas if some guy decided to cheat on his wife in broad day light, or went around telling everyoen about it, he obviously didn't make a "mistake".....and there is the death.

Islam basically relates cheating on your spouse to that of murder or rape, so it gets an equal sentence....again you may agree or not with that.

Mullah's, they are just people that got into a power situation. They could be "slow" and still be a mullah...there is no accredation system or anything. Hell, mullahs make up laws on whim. Some have 5 wives, where it specifically states no more than 4, and only if you can love them equally....but when this guy says 5 is ok for him....everyone just says ok. This right there shows you he is not following the religion...and you can't take anything else he says into account.

Homosexuality...again..it isn't allowed. Simply..thats that.... But the law follows the same a premarital sex or adultury. Some people (governments) might treat the laws differently.... sorta like america allows death penatly where most european countries don't. Both western and follow similar doctrine..... but the descrepency happens.

Answer 3

If that is so, then David Cameron is wrong. I am a feminist and I defiantly do not like radical Islam because women are treated like ****. I have a lot of Muslim friends but they are Muslim by birth as apposed to getting involved with repressing women. In some Muslim countries men can practise polygamy and it is normally in countries where there is far more men per-se than women, so there is going to be a lot of men without wives. The countries where women are treated like **** are Saudi Arabia, Qatar ,Kuwait and Afghanistan. Women in these countries have to wear veils when they go out to hid their identity, so no man can look at them except their husbands,they are like property in over words. They have public hanging and executions. I don't know if BNP believes in capitol punishment but they do not believe in having more than one wife and for women to wear veils or for women to be just in the home. What they do believe in, is being able to celebrate St Georges day, there is a lot of good things about BNP, but there is no good things about radical muslims.

Answer 4

As a nation we seem to have willingly adopted the idea that religion is bad, secularism is good, and comparisions like this do not reverse the tide.

We have to distinguish between genuine religious and moral belief based on human desires to do good to fellow humans, and the unacceptable imposition of personal beliefes on others.

My instincts tell me that small minorities can easily hijack the media by expressing extreme views. Yet I am still left with an uneasy feeling that we continue to harbour disenchanted groups in our society that would willingly take away our heritage of freedom of speech and freedom to live our lives to our own moral values.

I conclude with some sadness that parallels can be drawn between all organisations that seek to impose intolerant lifestyles on others. I would implore our Muslim community to stand fast and demonstrate that this is not their intent. I would implore others to see the difference between RADICAL Islam and the Islamic faith. We seem to have no problem differentiating between extreme and mainstream views in other cultural or religious groupings.

Answer 5

"Radical Islam" is the term used by the politically correct to refer to Islam.

The Arabs, plain and simple, are not prepared to accept the presence of a Jewish state in their midst. They are therefore using the weapon of terrorism to attempt to destroy Israel and disperse the Israelis throughout the world.

To this end they have invented the "Palestinian People."

In fact, as David Basch wrote, "'Palestinians' [are an] Arab people no one heard of before 1967 before Israeli governments certified this piece of propaganda... As has been noted many times before, prior to 1948, that is before Jews had begun to call themselves Israelis, the only persons known as "Palestinians" were Jews, with the Arabs much preferring to identify themselves as part of the great Arab nation."

Ahmed Shuqeiri, later the chairman of the PLO, declared to the UN Security Council "It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but southern Syria."

Syrian President Hafez Assad once told the late PLO terrorist leader Yassir Arafat:

"You do not represent Palestine as much as we do. Never forget this one point: There is no such thing as a Palestinian People, there is no Palestinian entity, there is only Syria. You are an integral part of the Syrian people, Palestine is an integral part of Syria. Therefore it is we, the Syrian authorities, who are the true representatives of the Palestinian people."

Only a clear and decisive victory by Israel over the Palestinians and their backers can bring peace to the Middle East.

Answer 6

there is Islam and muslims.
Islam will never change, this is the truth from God.
muslims are changing. there is right and wrong.
who ever you will accuse are not the right. still Islam is the same.
Islam is right.
like in Christianity and other religions, there is too many sects and all of them will claim that they are right and judge others and accuse them.
then how can you accuse Islam.
I know that there is many propagandas about Islam, but I don't care if it doesn't touch Islam. I still pray 5 times a day, do good, worship God alone, no adultery, no gambling, no drinking, no lies, stealing, drugs, no killing......I follow the commands of God, I opress nobody....the truth about Islam still alive. if you want to know it, you are welcomed. If you want to keep yourself with the arrogant people, just keep with them until the day of judgment and you will see with your eyes and hear from God who was right and who was wrong. but at that moment, no excuses will be accepted from anybody.

Answer 7

Yes, Cameron hit the nail on the head. British politicians (including jack straw and reid) are waking up to the fact that. like the BNP, extreme muslims are basically fascists, who want to destroy our liberal democracy and replace it with jackboot vigilantes prowling the streets to make sure we all adhere to the silly rules made up by their leaders. Britain will resist and destroy all opportunities that allow fascists to prosper. Freedom will win out against low-brows with potty training issues.

Answer 8

Radical Islam is 1000 x more dangerous than the BNP

Answer 9

really- everyone is racist in their own mind. You can hide the "n" word (& other offensive adjectives) through silence but the ignorance will be there as long as people base their own self value on how much better they are than "who" "what" or "when" ever.

Answer 10

May be cultures have different opinions, but we do respect what others believe in & hope to get the same respect in return. We Muslims hate nobody & NOT like how u described it!