While I am straight and I am not a Christian, I would agree.
It seems to me that if Christians think that Jesus was the messiah, then he would by definition have been the fulfillment of all of the law. Not just some of it - and not just the bits that might apply to them, -all- of it.
It follows then that if people believe that the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross really was the final atonement for all sins then they should likewise see all sins as forgiven, past present and future.
This alone should be a basis for acceptance and tolerance, peace, and forgiveness. I wonder that Christians can claim to have faith and follow Jesus and immediately when confronted with something from the old testament, forget the new testament says that He was the one stopped the crowd from stoning the adulteress...
As far as I can tell from reading the bible cover to cover an even dozen times -the only "commandment" that a true Christian should be concerned about was the one in John 13:34
"A new commandment I give unto you, That you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another."
Seems like everyone likes play judge - but they forget that judges are not needed if the law is fulfilled. If they have no faith in that - then they have no business calling themselves a follower of Christ...
But who am I to say?
True. I am not a Christian and I do not follow Jesus or even believe that he was real. I think I am probably like the old heretics who said that it was not important whether or not Christ really existed - that the idea of Christ was sufficient.
I think that it's like the old saying about how you don't have to stand in the rain to know you will get wet. Similarly the story doesn't have to be true to make us wiser and help us to understand what we should strive to be.
2007-01-29 17:46:39
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answered by Michael Darnell 7
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Okey dokey, This one is a very common question. The bible says that homosexuality is an abomination, NOWHERE in the bible does it ever tell anyone to kill anyone else. One of the Bible's main messages is tolerance. I am a Roman Catholic 17 year old. By no means am I a perfect Christian. I do believe that homosexuality is wrong, I don't hate homos. I actually have a gay friend. The other passage is just trying to comunicate that comiting adultury is wrong and that not only one person is guilty. When it says that they should be put to death, remember that the bible was written a long time ago and that adultery was actually against the law, and it was punishable by death. It wasn't telling someone to kill them, it was just the typical punishment at that time.
2007-01-30 01:15:51
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answered by mike w 1
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We're not under the Law, meaning the punishments and means of finding atonement do not apply anymore. By saying "we aren't under the Law" that doesn't mean adultery and homosexuality all of a sudden become legal - the New Testament consistently condemns both acts. However "what we do about it" is different. Instead of stoning people, we just hope they find repentance and transformation. So long as people breath they can find salvation, but once your life passes from you, if you have not dealt with your sin, you will certainly not be in the place of those who have found sanctification.
No matter how much we are supposed to love people, love does not justify people's sins. We do not say, "We love you so you can go to heaven anyway", no, we are all called to be cleansed from sin
2007-01-30 01:19:23
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answered by Anonymous
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And let's not forget about Leviticus 19:19, which prohibits wearing a garment made of both wool and linen. I don't think I have any weaves like that in my drawer, but maybe I'd better go check. And I hope no one reading this complained too vigorously about their parents when they were teenagers. Pretty serious penalty for that in Leviticus 20. Using the ancient priestly codes of that book as a basis for morality means that you're either just picking the rules you like or making a big deal about things that hardly anyone in the modern world would even blink at.
2007-01-30 01:36:57
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answered by obro 3
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leviticus 20 is describing the punishments for those that have broken the laws that were explained in the previous chapters. and it also describes the day of atonement when the high priest sacrifices a lamb, and sprinkles the blood on the ark of the covenant once a year, forgiving the sins of all of his people and himself. this is describing what should happen but since the sins are taken on the day of atonement, they live in guilt and shame until then, the lamb has paid for the sins of those people, so the adulterers shouldn't die, because their sin is taken in the day of atonement.
but this also can't relate directly to the present time period. this is an old testament passage, and therefore its very historical. killing now would be spiritual death.
homosexuality is against God's word, but although it describes it as killing of them, like i said for the adulterer, the sins are taken on the day of atonement...
2007-01-30 01:19:37
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answered by catchingfreak51 3
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Don't forget those that eat certain forms of sushi! Anything that is of the sea that has not scales . . . . is an abomination to the Lord.
I am a Christian, and I think that it's a shame how many Christians do not understand the Gospel or the significance of Jesus and the messages that can be found in Acts and Hebrews. Truly shameful. What are those pastors preaching?
2007-01-30 01:16:05
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answered by Christian Sinner 7
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Colin,
Where do you read anything about hating anyone in the verses you quote from? God tell us that yes homosexuality is an abomination unto Him. He never says anything about hate.
God loves all His Children and wants us to do the same. Sometimes loving someone hurts as many parents know. When discipline is called for.
To answer the last part of your question.
Committing adultery is a sin. Sin is a separation from God. When all is said and done, those who are without sin are with God. Those who have sin are not with God. There reward is death. I'll leave it at this for now. I can see you need to pray for understanding and wisdom and now is a good time to do it.><>
2007-01-30 01:14:20
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answered by CEM 5
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Have you read the bible in it's entirety? Taking stuff out of context? That would make everthing mean something different you have to take the nt and realize what was commanded (the greatest command to love) was after the age of law and in the age of grace. That is basic biblical knowledge which is sadly absent these days from a larger portion of the populace due to the secularization of America.
2007-01-30 01:12:25
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answered by xx_muggles_xx 6
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First of all, it doesn't say to hate gay people, that's just your own words coming out. In those days, the union between a husband and a wife was so strong and valued. And we are not living under the old testament law anymore, we are living under Grace. Don't twist the truth to your own words or views, just let it be what it is THE TRUTH. I'm not being rude, just honest. God bless you!
2007-01-30 01:14:32
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answered by Anonymous
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The passages you are quoting were part of the Mosaic Law handed down to Moses from Jehovah God.The Law was a covenant arrangement between God and the nation of Israel.
Christ's sacrificial death replaced the written law.
However,God's standards have not changed.The apostle Paul clearly states:"What!Do you not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit God's Kingdom?Do not be misled.Neither fornicators,no idolaters,nor adulterers,nor men kept for unnatural purposes,nor men who lie with men,.....will inherit God's Kingdom.And yet that is what some of you were.But you have been washed clean,but you have been sanctified,but you have been declared righteous in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and with the spirit of our God"-1Cor.6:9-11
An encouraging point in that text is Paul's expression:"Yet that is what some of you were.But you have been washed clean."
Many have come to their senses,accepted Christ and his sacrifice,and have been washed clean.They have chosen to please God by leading moral lives and are happier as a result.-1Peter4:3,4
As Christians,yes,love should be our goal.But that does not included condoning practises that our God Jehovah disapproves of.Nor does it mean that we 'hate' those who engage in these practises.
2007-01-30 01:28:04
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answered by lillie 6
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