My 16 day old puppy was given a subcutaneous injection tonight and the liquid bubbled out of his nose. After about 1/4 cc, he started gagging and then it he vomitted and the bubbles from his nose. The vet administered an IV in his front leg on a very low drip and just as instantly, he again gagged and started vomitting the IV fluid. No one has ever heard of this happening before and we are stumped as to what's going on with my litter of pups. Mom is extremely healthy with a steady temperature of 100.9. But I have lost 11 pups in 52 hours to this "bizarre" disease.
2007-01-29 14:25:23 · 8 answers · asked by Adoption P 3 in Pets ➔ Dogs
Day 1 details: 15 pups total. 3 were stillborn, 2 of them were mega deformed (one so bad we couldn't tell male or female). 2 more died within the first 24 hours. 2 weeks later. 10 healthy, vibrant, alert, active pups on Saturday morning. I take temps every AM & PM and they were all normal. Sat night I went to do checks and had a dead pup--he was just fine that morning. Sunday morning, I woke up to a dead pup. Temps on the survivers were normal, they were all still vibrant and active. Sunday afternoon I heard one start crying nonstop. Within 4 hours he had gone from 98 to 93 degrees. Every attempt to raise his temp failed. He died within the hour. Checks a few hours later, one more dead pups. Had another cryer this morning, temp taken at 97 within half an hour down to 92, dead in 20 min. Now this one, temp normal this AM, dropped to 92 within 3 hours, vomitting IV fluids, died a few minutes later. No fever, no infection, norm fecal tests, norm blood results. Necropsy scheduled tomorrow
2007-01-29 14:46:52 · update #1
BirdGirl--The vet did both. Immediately following the subcutaneous (which was administered between the shoulder blades right beneath the skin), he gagged and bubbles came from his nose. Then the vet put in an IV (since the subcutaneous "didn't work") and right away the pup gagged and began vomitting.
There is no coughing, fever or weezing (as would be expected in pneumonia, bronchitis or any other lung issue).
At this point, taking the stillborn and deformed pups at birth we are leaning towards an internal deformity of some sort. But like I said, the necropsy is scheduled for tomorrow when the vet who does those gets in. In the mean time, my survivors are on Clavamox and Albon (two broad spectrum antibiotics).
2007-01-29 15:08:25 · update #2
The vet doing the necropsy came in late tonight to get it done so we could find out what was wrong and save the remaining litter. Unfortunetly, they will all be euthenized in the morning. The pup necropsied showed characteristics of Canine Herpes Virus. The mother and remaining litter will be euthenized in the morning.
Ever another reason for all of you out there to spay and neuter your pets!!!! Here is an absolutely beautiful dog that belonged to someone once upon a time. But whoever her owners were decided they'd let her run free and be "wild" and allowed her to be impregnated by some other "wild" dog. Now not only did she spread Herpes to that male dog but my entire family has been put through the pain of watching an entire litter of pups die in 3 days.
If you have a mixed breed animal, PLEASE have it spayed or neutered. If you own a pure-breed and have no intentions of breeding, please have it sterlized!!!!
Save the next foster family from this horror.
2007-01-29 16:26:42 · update #3
oh my goodness!!! i have never heard of this before,i can't possibly fathom what is going on here,but maybe the two aren't related it might just be a coincidence that the two seem to be happening at the same time,i would say a pneumonia type thing but the vet i am assuming would have picked up on that i am baffled,and so sorry to hear that you are going through this,poor little babies,i am going to be thinking on this question for a long time,i hope someone comes up with an answer for you SOON
2007-01-29 14:41:49 · answer #1 · answered by onyxpryzm 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I am a little confused..you said subcutaneous fluid which means they give fluids under the skin, usually near their shoulders as there is alot of loss skin there. Then you said they gave IV fluid, which means intravenously, meaning in the vein. You said they put it in the vein in his leg, right? The fluid going into a vein could not come out his nose. With subcutaneous fluid, it might be more likely to be able to travel around the body, but still extremely rare for it to make it back out the dogs nose. The fluid in the nose has to be completely unrelated to the fluids they are giving the dog. Hope you figure out what is going on! Good Luck.
2007-01-29 14:57:12 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I would not think that they are related. It sounds like the puppy is having something wrong with its lungs (like maybe pneumonia). It may also be some sort of genetic defect that is causing problems. It is hard to do, but you may want to have the vet do a necropsy on the dead puppies, if they have not already, to try to find out what is going on and hopefully help treat the living one. I hope that they puppy gets better.
2007-01-29 14:30:45 · answer #3 · answered by iluvmyfrenchbulldogs 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
If the vet is stumped that would be hard for us to know what it wrong. Do they maybe have Pnuemonia? Or Canine Bronchitis? I have never heard of it happening too. I have given many dogs subcutaneous fluids and never have they had any kinds of reactions to it before. You have a very interesting case I hope they can find the cure... I would be curious to know what it is if they are able to find out.
2007-01-29 14:34:45 · answer #4 · answered by I luv Pets 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Injection and rhinorrhea ( water coming out of nose) may not be linked. Unless your puppy had an acute allergic reaction to injected substance. Wheezing sounds, gagging, swelling of face and nose areas or rashes are other signs of allergic reactions. But bear in mind -your puppy may have other problems -including infections or congenital malformations that may be causing the problem -best to check with the vet.
2007-01-29 14:36:44 · answer #5 · answered by grapevine 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Did you ever find your answer? I ask because this just happened to my dog last night. My dog had subcataneous fluids in the back of the neck, we left and went home. Now, to be open and honest, my dog has cancer of the nose. But as soon as we got in the door my dog started sneezing, and tons of water started to pour out of her nose. It wasn't like she sneezed and got a lot of snot out, it was like someone turned a faucet on. I called the ER vet where we just had this procedure, and they said they never heard of it and it couldn't POSSIBLY be related. It was scary to see.
2015-09-14 03:52:41 · answer #6 · answered by Dex 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
it can't be the iv fluid coming out of his nose -thats not possible. He has fluid in his lungs, probably, and the iv fluid is making his heart work hard to put the fluid out
2007-01-29 14:34:38 · answer #7 · answered by rose_merrick 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Sounds like brucellosis, was the mother tested before breeding?
2007-01-29 17:29:32 · answer #8 · answered by cs 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋